[nos-bbs] To be or not to be

ve1bf arto at ns.sympatico.ca
Fri Dec 25 14:10:19 EST 2009

Merry Christmas one and all...
I would like to see an end all questions site for jnos
but here is one thing...start it out for somebody who has
never set up jnos before...I recently did this for station
ve1fyi.dyndns.org ..and but for the help of ...
ve3zda ...ve1jot and  Burt ve1ama...I would still be lost..
Art ...ve1bf
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] To be or not to be

  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

  It would be nice to keep it going and collect everything JNOS in one place.
  thanks for your work,

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: George [ham] VerDuin 
    To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List ; MI-AMPRnet 
    Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:26 PM
    Subject: [nos-bbs] To be or not to be

    That is my question to the NOS user group in ending this year.
    Greetings and happy holidays to everyone.

    SO -- a few years ago I discovered JNOS2 and found it to be just what I 
    Jnos has the feature set that scratches my itch very nicely.
    Yes -- I have only been around for a little while in this camp.
    In my process of discovery and application I discovered some things that 
    troubled me.
       First, to discover jnos in depth, many sources of information needed 
    to be uncovered -- reading "C" is not my favored approach to learning a 
    new application.
       Second, to tailor my installation to my needs was torture, it took 
    many(?) mis-steps -- in-depth example configurations are hard to find.
       Third, to hone performance required many hours of reading dumps and 
    computing optimal settings -- defaults are provided but not the basis 
    for the numbers.
    All of this is just fine, no complaint from my QTH, it can be a valid 
    part of the ham hobby.

    While tapping the resources of this group, it seemed reasonable to give 
    something back.
    My first choice was to publish a work bringing the various source info 
    together into one document.
    I chose the jnos1.10 doc as the basis [same as jnos2], got permission, 
    and began merging.
    During this labor, it hit me that I was engaged in tying together a 
    group effort.
    I also saw that the day after my work hit the streets it would be 
    These things brought me to the wiki -- a collaborative tool used 
    elsewhere to give structure to a project.

    With mostly clerical effort, I converted the material I was assembling 
    into MoinMoin WIKI format.
    For a while the wiki seemed to whet some appetites, and the search 
    engine feature got a fair amount of use.
    The feedback from the community was mixed -- positive and disinterested, 
    not negative.
    I carried the hope that the wiki would "catch on" and folks might come 
    to rely on it to replace surfing.
    More to the community concept, I hoped others would publish their own 
    success stories via the wiki.
    A well used wiki contains answers as they develop and never goes 
    It appears none of that actually happened.

    Today, the wiki is sick.  A bug crept in during an automatic upgrade 
    from V1.6 to V1.8.  The fix escapes me.
    More importantly to the question:
       -->nobody has noticed the absence of wiki since it went down.
    It seems like I have successfully perfected an appendix transplant -- 
    nice(?) but nobody can use one.

    The bug is repairable.
    My question to this group today is:
        Is it a waste of effort to put jnoswiki.no-ip.org back on the web?
    If the NOS community is to grow, newbies (like me) might use the wiki as 
    a resource.
    The reflector hot button of today "adjusting the content at the jnos 
    prompt" deserves to find it's way into wiki.
    Yet the wiki is not today's research tool for users who want to attempt 
    new features.

    Building the wiki has provided the discovery I needed.
    If others expect it could be useful in the future I'll fix the bug in 
    the server.
    It's a story for some other time, but we won't be casting off the dock 
    lines and sailing the seven seas, so the wiki could continue to live 
    here IF it gets used.

    I wish everyone the best for the holidays, and a prosperous 2010.

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