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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Merry Christmas one and all...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I would like to see an </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial>end all questions site for jnos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>but here is one thing...start it out for somebody
who has</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>never set up jnos before...I recently did this for
station</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>ve1fyi.dyndns.org ..and but for the help of
...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>ve3zda ...ve1jot and Burt ve1ama...I would
still be lost..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Art ...ve1bf</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ka4kkf@gmail.com href="mailto:ka4kkf@gmail.com">David</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nos-bbs@tapr.org
href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org">TAPR xNOS Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 25, 2009 12:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [nos-bbs] To be or not to
be</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It would be nice to keep it going and collect
everything JNOS in one place.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>thanks for your work,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>David<BR>ka4kkf<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=k8rra@ameritech.net href="mailto:k8rra@ameritech.net">George [ham]
VerDuin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nos-bbs@tapr.org
href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org">TAPR xNOS Mailing List</A> ; <A
title=mi-amprnet@lugwash.org
href="mailto:mi-amprnet@lugwash.org">MI-AMPRnet</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [nos-bbs] To be or not to
be</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>That is my question to the NOS user group in ending this
year.<BR>Greetings and happy holidays to everyone.<BR><BR>SO -- a few years
ago I discovered JNOS2 and found it to be just what I <BR>wanted.<BR>Jnos
has the feature set that scratches my itch very nicely.<BR>Yes -- I have
only been around for a little while in this camp.<BR>In my process of
discovery and application I discovered some things that <BR>troubled
me.<BR> First, to discover jnos in depth, many sources of
information needed <BR>to be uncovered -- reading "C" is not my favored
approach to learning a <BR>new application.<BR> Second, to
tailor my installation to my needs was torture, it took <BR>many(?)
mis-steps -- in-depth example configurations are hard to
find.<BR> Third, to hone performance required many hours of
reading dumps and <BR>computing optimal settings -- defaults are provided
but not the basis <BR>for the numbers.<BR>All of this is just fine, no
complaint from my QTH, it can be a valid <BR>part of the ham
hobby.<BR><BR>While tapping the resources of this group, it seemed
reasonable to give <BR>something back.<BR>My first choice was to publish a
work bringing the various source info <BR>together into one document.<BR>I
chose the jnos1.10 doc as the basis [same as jnos2], got permission, <BR>and
began merging.<BR>During this labor, it hit me that I was engaged in tying
together a <BR>group effort.<BR>I also saw that the day after my work hit
the streets it would be <BR>out-of-date.<BR>These things brought me to the
wiki -- a collaborative tool used <BR>elsewhere to give structure to a
project.<BR><BR>With mostly clerical effort, I converted the material I was
assembling <BR>into MoinMoin WIKI format.<BR>For a while the wiki seemed to
whet some appetites, and the search <BR>engine feature got a fair amount of
use.<BR>The feedback from the community was mixed -- positive and
disinterested, <BR>not negative.<BR>I carried the hope that the wiki would
"catch on" and folks might come <BR>to rely on it to replace
surfing.<BR>More to the community concept, I hoped others would publish
their own <BR>success stories via the wiki.<BR>A well used wiki contains
answers as they develop and never goes <BR>out-of-date.<BR>It appears none
of that actually happened.<BR><BR>Today, the wiki is sick. A bug crept
in during an automatic upgrade <BR>from V1.6 to V1.8. The fix escapes
me.<BR>More importantly to the question:<BR> -->nobody has
noticed the absence of wiki since it went down.<BR>It seems like I have
successfully perfected an appendix transplant -- <BR>nice(?) but nobody can
use one.<BR><BR>The bug is repairable.<BR>My question to this group today
is:<BR> Is it a waste of effort to put jnoswiki.no-ip.org
back on the web?<BR>If the NOS community is to grow, newbies (like me) might
use the wiki as <BR>a resource.<BR>The reflector hot button of today
"adjusting the content at the jnos <BR>prompt" deserves to find it's way
into wiki.<BR>Yet the wiki is not today's research tool for users who want
to attempt <BR>new features.<BR><BR>Building the wiki has provided the
discovery I needed.<BR>If others expect it could be useful in the future
I'll fix the bug in <BR>the server.<BR>It's a story for some other time, but
we won't be casting off the dock <BR>lines and sailing the seven seas, so
the wiki could continue to live <BR>here IF it gets used.<BR><BR>I wish
everyone the best for the holidays, and a prosperous
2010.<BR>73<BR>Skip<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>nos-bbs
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