[aprssig] Orphaned Argent Data GPS? Panic!
Thomas Krahn
thomas at tkrahn.com
Tue Mar 31 21:30:00 EDT 2015
Bob,
Argent has (at least) two sizes of GPS/Antenna assemblies.
They have the same pinout:
https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=174
Wafer connector pinouts: 1 - TTL out, 2 - TTL in, 3 - RS-232 out, 4 -
RS-232 in, 5 - Power (3.3 to 12v), 6 - Ground
6 black,
5 red,
4 blue
3 white
2 blue
1 yellow.
Note that the "small" GPS from Argent is not for high altitude. But if
this is for the solar balloon that should be fine.
Good luck!
Thomas
KT5TK / DL4MDW
On 04/01/2015 01:46 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> Re: List of popular consumer transceivers that CANNOT interact due to
> interoperability problem demonstrating market niche for Comms Hub /
> tactical mapping program
>
> I’m 12 hours from a balloon launch and I opened my box of tiny GPS
> receivers we have had from Argent Data and the bag has no docs! I go
> to the Argent data web site, and the GPS is not shown!
>
> Does anyone know the pin out of these tiny receivers? (I assume they
> came from Argent Data since that is the box they are in).
>
> They are tiny, about ¾” square and say WIESON on them. They come with
> a pigtail of black, red, blue white, blue yellow. But I can find
> nothing about where is 5V and NMEA out?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
>
> *From:*Scott Miller [mailto:scott at argentdata.com
> <mailto:scott at argentdata.com>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:05 PM
> *To:* Ed Lecuyer; Anthony Mascola
> *Cc:* wb2osz at comcast.net <mailto:wb2osz at comcast.net>;
> support at argentdata.com <mailto:support at argentdata.com>;
> bruninga at usna.edu <mailto:bruninga at usna.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: List of popular consumer transceivers that CANNOT
> interact due to interoperability problem demonstrating market niche
> for Comms Hub / tactical mapping program
>
> The Tracker3 already has an option to put out the NMEA strings for TNP
> for everything it decodes off the air. I haven't touched it in a long
> time and I haven't really had any feedback from users on it, so I'm
> not sure how widely it might be used.
>
> If someone comes up with a working reference implementation for a Rino
> receiver I'd be happy to look into integrating that, when time allows.
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/10/2014 8:39 AM, Ed Lecuyer wrote:
>
> Hi Anthony (and all)
>
> We have no immediate plans to extend TNP in such a manner.
> Moreover, it is doubtful that anyone would be able to secure the
> permissions and protocols from all of these competing
> manufacturers to produce a single product that would communicate
> universally.'
> '
> That said, if someone were to produce such a product and have it
> spout out NMEA strings in the format we have documented, then TNP
> could be used as a display engine. To pull this off, someone
> (independent of all of the major mapping apps, etc.) might be able
> to secure the permissions and protocols needed.
>
> If someone is willing to take on such a project, I will be happy
> to supply a copy of TNP once they are reaching the stage of
> needing a rendering engine. Until then, we are not interested in
> attempting to develop such an application.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Lecuyer
> Product Manager, Terrain Navigator Pro
> tnp at mytopo.com <mailto:tnp at mytopo.com>
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> On Jun 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM Anthony Mascola
> <anthony.mascola at gmail.com <mailto:anthony.mascola at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Below is a list of VERY popular consumer products which track
> the operator's
> position and can send and receive position and other
> information and display
> this on a moving map tactical display. The problem of
> interoperability
> however creates a situation where these devices currently
> CANNOT hear or be
> heard by others without the proprietary format and there is no
> way to merge
> all this data on a single tactical display. What results is a
> very
> fragmented system that loses tremendous potential for
> coordinating
> operations. We desperately need a very high quality universal
> mapping and
> communications hub program with up to date urban maps, USGS
> topo and Marine
> charts where transceivers on each of the frequencies can be
> connected to a
> single computer with a single tactical display. The incident
> command center
> can have a properly licensed operator at the computer and
> hardware that is
> FCC approved for transmitting on that frequency which can be
> activated.
> This person can ID the field operators, see the location of
> the field
> operators at all times on the map and have multiple ways to
> communicate with
> that person from from flashing a signal mirror along a bearing
> to a target,
> sending a person on foot to a specific location, calling,
> emailing or
> texting their mobile phone, calling them on their UHF or VHF
> HT or sending a
> satellite text message or placing a satellite phone call to
> that person.
> There is a market for a company which will take the lead and
> develop
> something that can understand and speak with the common
> formats below and
> display location and messaging data in a single integrated
> place. This
> needs to be affordable and easy to use. It should be scalable
> and usable
> for cub scouts all the way up to multi-agency search. Position
> data can be
> translated by this hub and sent as waypoints to all of the
> different radio
> services and not violate any FCC rules that way each field
> operator can see
> the others in the field as updated waypoints and at least know
> the positions
> of the team at all times. Other freq data could be attached to
> the position
> packet so the person could go direct with whatever common RF
> they have.
> Please consider this request as there is nothing on the market
> currently
> which solves the interoperability problem.
>
> AM
>
> Mobile Phone
>
> Any modern GPS enabled mobile phone, iPhone, Android, Windows
> etc..
>
> Satellite
>
> DeLorme InReach: http://www.inreachdelorme.com/
>
> SPOT: http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217
> <http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217&gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_E
>
> oAvA> &gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_EoAvA
>
> VHF/UHF handheld transceivers
>
> Amateur Band
>
> Any APRS or DPRS Handheld Transceiver
>
> Examples: Kenwood THd72A, TMd710GA, Yaesu several models, ICOM
> several
> models just google manufacturer and put APRS or DPRS in search
> field
>
> Private Land Mobile Radio Service
>
> Motorola
> http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-way
>
> +Radios/Project-25-P25-Radios/Portable+Radios/APX_7000XE
>
> Many others
>
> GMRS Band
>
> Garmin Rino http://sites.garmin.com/rino/
>
> MURS Band
>
> Garmin Astro http://sites.garmin.com/astro/
>
> Marine Band
>
> Standard Horizon HX851:
> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts
> <http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=85
>
> &ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3> &ProdCatID=85&ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3
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