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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Bob,<br>
      <br>
      Argent has (at least) two sizes of GPS/Antenna assemblies.<br>
      <br>
      They have the same pinout:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=174">https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=174</a><br>
      <br>
      Wafer connector pinouts: 1 - TTL out, 2 - TTL in, 3 - RS-232 out,
      4 - RS-232 in, 5 - Power (3.3 to 12v), 6 - Ground<br>
      <br>
      6 black, <br>
      5 red, <br>
      4 blue <br>
      3 white<br>
      2 blue <br>
      1 yellow.<br>
      <br>
      Note that the "small" GPS from Argent is not for high altitude.
      But if this is for the solar balloon that should be fine.<br>
      <br>
      Good luck!<br>
      <br>
      Thomas<br>
      KT5TK / DL4MDW<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 04/01/2015 01:46 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>
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      <title>Re: List of popular consumer transceivers that CANNOT
        interact due to interoperability problem demonstrating market
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m
            12 hours from a balloon launch and I opened my box of tiny
            GPS receivers we have had from Argent Data and the bag has
            no docs!  I go to the Argent data web site, and the GPS is
            not shown!</span></p>
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            anyone know the pin out of these tiny receivers?  (I assume
            they came from Argent Data since that is the box they are
            in).</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">They
            are tiny, about ¾” square and say WIESON on them.  They come
            with a pigtail of black, red, blue white, blue yellow.  But
            I can find nothing about where is 5V and NMEA out?</span></p>
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                Scott Miller [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:scott@argentdata.com">scott@argentdata.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:05 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Ed Lecuyer; Anthony Mascola<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:wb2osz@comcast.net">wb2osz@comcast.net</a>;
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                <b>Subject:</b> Re: List of popular consumer
                transceivers that CANNOT interact due to
                interoperability problem demonstrating market niche for
                Comms Hub / tactical mapping program</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">The Tracker3 already has an option to put
            out the NMEA strings for TNP for everything it decodes off
            the air.  I haven't touched it in a long time and I haven't
            really had any feedback from users on it, so I'm not sure
            how widely it might be used.<br>
            <br>
            If someone comes up with a working reference implementation
            for a Rino receiver I'd be happy to look into integrating
            that, when time allows.<br>
            <br>
            Scott<br>
            <br>
            On 6/10/2014 8:39 AM, Ed Lecuyer wrote:</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Anthony (and all)<br>
                <br>
                We have no immediate plans to extend TNP in such a
                manner. Moreover, it is doubtful that anyone would be
                able to secure the permissions and protocols from all of
                these competing manufacturers to produce a single
                product that would communicate universally.'<br>
                '<br>
                That said, if someone were to produce such a product and
                have it spout out NMEA strings in the format we have
                documented, then TNP could be used as a display engine.
                To pull this off, someone (independent of all of the
                major mapping apps, etc.) might be able to secure the
                permissions and protocols needed.<br>
                <br>
                If someone is willing to take on such a project, I will
                be happy to supply a copy of TNP once they are reaching
                the stage of needing a rendering engine. Until then, we
                are not interested in attempting to develop such an
                application.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks,<br>
                <br>
                Ed Lecuyer<br>
                Product Manager, Terrain Navigator Pro<br>
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                <br>
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                PS: If I provided a prompt, courteous, and useful
                response, please click on the "thanks" link, below. I
                appreciate your feedback. </p>
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              style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">On
              Jun 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM Anthony Mascola <<a
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                  style="color:#4b60b2">anthony.mascola@gmail.com</span></a>>
              wrote: </p>
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                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Below
                  is a list of VERY popular consumer products which
                  track the operator's <br>
                  position and can send and receive position and other
                  information and display <br>
                  this on a moving map tactical display. The problem of
                  interoperability <br>
                  however creates a situation where these devices
                  currently CANNOT hear or be <br>
                  heard by others without the proprietary format and
                  there is no way to merge <br>
                  all this data on a single tactical display. What
                  results is a very <br>
                  fragmented system that loses tremendous potential for
                  coordinating <br>
                  operations. We desperately need a very high quality
                  universal mapping and <br>
                  communications hub program with up to date urban maps,
                  USGS topo and Marine <br>
                  charts where transceivers on each of the frequencies
                  can be connected to a <br>
                  single computer with a single tactical display. The
                  incident command center <br>
                  can have a properly licensed operator at the computer
                  and hardware that is <br>
                  FCC approved for transmitting on that frequency which
                  can be activated. <br>
                  This person can ID the field operators, see the
                  location of the field <br>
                  operators at all times on the map and have multiple
                  ways to communicate with <br>
                  that person from from flashing a signal mirror along a
                  bearing to a target, <br>
                  sending a person on foot to a specific location,
                  calling, emailing or <br>
                  texting their mobile phone, calling them on their UHF
                  or VHF HT or sending a <br>
                  satellite text message or placing a satellite phone
                  call to that person. <br>
                  There is a market for a company which will take the
                  lead and develop <br>
                  something that can understand and speak with the
                  common formats below and <br>
                  display location and messaging data in a single
                  integrated place. This <br>
                  needs to be affordable and easy to use. It should be
                  scalable and usable <br>
                  for cub scouts all the way up to multi-agency search.
                  Position data can be <br>
                  translated by this hub and sent as waypoints to all of
                  the different radio <br>
                  services and not violate any FCC rules that way each
                  field operator can see <br>
                  the others in the field as updated waypoints and at
                  least know the positions <br>
                  of the team at all times. Other freq data could be
                  attached to the position <br>
                  packet so the person could go direct with whatever
                  common RF they have. <br>
                  Please consider this request as there is nothing on
                  the market currently <br>
                  which solves the interoperability problem. </p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">AM</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Mobile
                  Phone</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Any
                  modern GPS enabled mobile phone, iPhone, Android,
                  Windows etc..</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Satellite</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">DeLorme
                  InReach: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.inreachdelorme.com/"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.inreachdelorme.com/</span></a>
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                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">SPOT:
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217</span></a>
                  <br>
                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217&gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_E"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217&gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_E</span></a>
                  <br>
                  oAvA> &gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_EoAvA </p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">VHF/UHF
                  handheld transceivers</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Amateur
                  Band</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Any
                  APRS or DPRS Handheld Transceiver</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Examples:
                  Kenwood THd72A, TMd710GA, Yaesu several models, ICOM
                  several <br>
                  models just google manufacturer and put APRS or DPRS
                  in search field</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Private
                  Land Mobile Radio Service</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Motorola
                  <br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-way"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-way</span></a>
                  <br>
                  +Radios/Project-25-P25-Radios/Portable+Radios/APX_7000XE
                </p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Many
                  others</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">GMRS
                  Band</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Garmin
                  Rino <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://sites.garmin.com/rino/"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://sites.garmin.com/rino/</span></a>
                </p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">MURS
                  Band</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Garmin
                  Astro <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://sites.garmin.com/astro/"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://sites.garmin.com/astro/</span></a>
                </p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Marine
                  Band</p>
                <p class="textilish"
                  style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Standard
                  Horizon HX851: <br>
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                    href="http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts</span></a>
                  <br>
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href="http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=85"><span
                      style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=85</span></a>
                  <br>
                  &ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3>
                  &ProdCatID=85&ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3</p>
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