[nos-bbs] including original message in replies, comment text in forwards
Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty
bobtenty at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 02:28:05 EST 2014
Some -OR- solutions are..
1) AGWPE (AGW packet engine) (Can also a sound-card as tnc) and use it
a router for Thunderbird, etc.
2) Install Jnos compiled for dos, you need an additional driver for this
so that multiple programs can access the same interface (virtual
I did this already in the Win3.1 days. and used nos as the router
3) Use virtualization if you have a modern laptop and install VirtualBox
and install linux in a virtual machine with the ax25 utilities and
you have both
4) Install linux in another partition of your hard drive and make it
5) And the classic joke: Remove Windows and Install Linux as that is all
what you need :-)
On 14-12-17 12:09 AM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:
> OK. So, again, how?
> Assume the user has a Windows PC with Thinderbird, a radio, and a TNC.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty"
> Date:12/16/2014 8:13 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] including original message in replies, comment
> text in forwards
> Don't be confused over "at the lan" as my tnc and radio is coupled
> with it.
> You still can receive ax25 mail, amprnet and Internet mail (winlink)
> over the radio with this setup when Internet is down.
> Outpost with the tnc is doing ax25 only to retrieve the mail. More a
> terminal program in the background to do the processing.
> From Thunderbird’s point of vieuw, it is only talking tcp/ip protocols
> to handle and retrieve the mail
> from BPQ, FBB and Jnos.
> You need an ax25 stack with this, Jnos or Linux, etc. to carry tcp/ip
> frames and for identification.
> On 14-12-16 07:33 PM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:
>> Thanks Bob. Using an intermediate host to collect all mail is an
>> interesting solution. But I think your last three words are the
>> key: “at the lan”.
>> My original question was about the mbox command line because I’m
>> working in scenarios where the LAN/Internet doesn’t exist (i.e.
>> because it is down, such as in EmComm, or because it doesn’t exist,
>> such as at a remote checkpoint of a bicycle race). So the end-user
>> has a computer, a VHF/UHF radio, and a 1200/9600 baud TNC. We
>> usually use Outpost in that situation because it presents an
>> interface like an email client to the user, but behaves like a user
>> typing on the mbox command line to the BBS. Outpost does include the
>> original message. But I was hoping for a way to do it directly from
>> the command line, too. From your original response, I thought
>> perhaps you had some nifty way to use pop3 in that remote scenario.
>> *From:*nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:03 PM
>> *To:* TAPR xNOS Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [nos-bbs] including original message in replies,
>> comment text in forwards
>> The ax25 BPQ and FBB bbs have a pop and smtp server and are set to
>> certain ports different from my regular linux server to avoid a
>> Fetchmail pops from BPQ, FBB, Jnos and other Internet email accounts
>> to a linux mail server.
>> So everything for me at whatever mail address provider ends up in one
>> mail account at my server.
>> Thunderbird at the client computers reads the mail from the server
>> using IMAP so that all mail remains available
>> for all other clients so everything keeps in sync. (sent, read,
>> whatever) You will see exactly the same, sent, read and
>> the other mail directories at whatever computer you are at the lan
>> with the same contents.
>> My Thunderbird mail inbox at whatever computer for my account
>> contains mail to different mail To: addresses for me, all in one big
>> At the account settings you can setup outgoing smtp server(s) and
>> identities. Separate identities are setup for these (To:) addresses
>> You can link an identity to a particular smtp server for delivery.
>> ax25 and Internet/Amprnet mail handling is just the same, you just
>> fill in an ax25 mail address like a regular Internet mail address.
>> If I reply to an ax25 mail for ve3tok at ve3tok.#scon.on.can.noam
>> <mailto:ve3tok at ve3tok.#scon.on.can.noam> from
>> ja1abc at 7M3TJZ.13.JNET1.JPN.AS <mailto:ja1abc at 7M3TJZ.13.JNET1.JPN.AS>
>> for instance, the
>> write pane in Thunderbird will show automatically "From:
>> ve3tok at ve3tok.#scon.can.noam <mailto:ve3tok at ve3tok.#scon.can.noam>"
>> and sending it will go to the right smtp server what is
>> the one at my ax25 bbs in this case. This is valid to whatever
>> identify the mail addressed is to in this inbox.
>> In a new message to whatever ax25 / Internet mail address I can
>> change the From: address identity (drop box) from the default.
>> Amprnet, Internet and ax25 personal mail handling are fully
>> integrated from whatever computer at the lan.
>> Bob VE3TOK
>> On 14-12-16 01:22 AM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:
>> Thanks Bob.
>> I don't understand. Can you elaborate on how all the pieces
>> parts fit together?
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: "Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty"
>> Date:12/15/2014 9:53 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] including original message in replies,
>> comment text in forwards
>> I pop also my ax25 only bbs like BPQ in that way and reply from
>> Thunderbird with the proper ax25 identity
>> using the smtp server in BPQ so Outpost is not necessary here for
>> ax25 mail as it all can be handled by Thunderbird
>> with the proper ax25 identity.
>> Very convenient as I only need one application to handle all kind
>> of mail.
>> On 14-12-16 12:15 AM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:
>> Thanks Bob.
>> Yeah, I was looking for a command line option. We use
>> Outpost as an AX.25 client and it does include the original
>> in the reply or forwarding message. We don’t use POP
>> because, well, if the Internet is available, there are better
>> POP mail servers! ;-)
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>> nos-bbs at tapr.org
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