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Some -OR- solutions are..<br>
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1) AGWPE (AGW packet engine) (Can also a sound-card as tnc) and use
it<br>
a router for Thunderbird, etc.<br>
2) Install Jnos compiled for dos, you need an additional driver for
this<br>
so that multiple programs can access the same interface (virtual
driver)<br>
I did this already in the Win3.1 days. and used nos as the
router to amprnet.<br>
3) Use virtualization if you have a modern laptop and install
VirtualBox or VMware<br>
and install linux in a virtual machine with the ax25 utilities
and you have both<br>
worlds.<br>
4) Install linux in another partition of your hard drive and make it
double boot. <br>
5) And the classic joke: Remove Windows and Install Linux as that is
all what you need :-)<br>
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<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-12-17 12:09 AM, Michael E Fox -
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<div>OK. So, again, how?</div>
<div>Assume the user has a Windows PC with Thinderbird, a radio,
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<div>Michael</div>
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<div>From: "Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty" <bobtenty@gmail.com> </bobtenty@gmail.com></div>
<div>Date:12/16/2014 8:13 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs@tapr.org> </nos-bbs@tapr.org></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] including original message in replies,
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Don't be confused over "at the lan" as my tnc and radio is coupled
with it.<br>
You still can receive ax25 mail, amprnet and Internet mail
(winlink) over the radio with this setup when Internet is down.<br>
<br>
Outpost with the tnc is doing ax25 only to retrieve the mail.
More a terminal program in the background to do the processing.<br>
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From Thunderbird’s point of vieuw, it is only talking tcp/ip
protocols to handle and retrieve the mail<br>
from BPQ, FBB and Jnos.<br>
You need an ax25 stack with this, Jnos or Linux, etc. to carry
tcp/ip frames and for identification.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-12-16 07:33 PM, Michael E Fox -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Bob.
Using an intermediate host to collect all mail is an
interesting solution. But I think your last three words
are the key: “at the lan”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My original
question was about the mbox command line because I’m
working in scenarios where the LAN/Internet doesn’t exist
(i.e. because it is down, such as in EmComm, or because it
doesn’t exist, such as at a remote checkpoint of a bicycle
race). So the end-user has a computer, a VHF/UHF radio,
and a 1200/9600 baud TNC. We usually use Outpost in that
situation because it presents an interface like an email
client to the user, but behaves like a user typing on the
mbox command line to the BBS. Outpost does include the
original message. But I was hoping for a way to do it
directly from the command line, too. From your original
response, I thought perhaps you had some nifty way to use
pop3 in that remote scenario.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] including original
message in replies, comment text in forwards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The ax25
BPQ and FBB bbs have a pop and smtp server and are set to
certain ports different from my regular linux server to
avoid a conflicts.<br>
<br>
Fetchmail pops from BPQ, FBB, Jnos and other Internet
email accounts to a linux mail server.<br>
So everything for me at whatever mail address provider
ends up in one mail account at my server.<br>
<br>
Thunderbird at the client computers reads the mail from
the server using IMAP so that all mail remains available<br>
for all other clients so everything keeps in sync. (sent,
read, whatever) You will see exactly the same, sent, read
and<br>
the other mail directories at whatever computer you are at
the lan with the same contents.<br>
<br>
My Thunderbird mail inbox at whatever computer for my
account contains mail to different mail To: addresses for
me, all in one big inbox.<br>
At the account settings you can setup outgoing smtp
server(s) and identities. Separate identities are setup
for these (To:) addresses<br>
You can link an identity to a particular smtp server for
delivery. ax25 and Internet/Amprnet mail handling is just
the same, you just<br>
fill in an ax25 mail address like a regular Internet mail
address.<br>
<br>
If I reply to an ax25 mail for <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ve3tok@ve3tok.#scon.on.can.noam">ve3tok@ve3tok.#scon.on.can.noam</a>
from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ja1abc@7M3TJZ.13.JNET1.JPN.AS">ja1abc@7M3TJZ.13.JNET1.JPN.AS</a>
for instance, the<br>
write pane in Thunderbird will show automatically "From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ve3tok@ve3tok.#scon.can.noam">ve3tok@ve3tok.#scon.can.noam</a>"
and sending it will go to the right smtp server what is<br>
the one at my ax25 bbs in this case. This is valid to
whatever identify the mail addressed is to in this inbox.<br>
<br>
In a new message to whatever ax25 / Internet mail address
I can change the From: address identity (drop box) from
the default.<br>
<br>
Amprnet, Internet and ax25 personal mail handling are
fully integrated from whatever computer at the lan. <br>
<br>
<br>
Bob VE3TOK<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Bob.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't understand. Can you
elaborate on how all the pieces parts fit together?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: "Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty" <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date:12/15/2014 9:53 PM (GMT-08:00)
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] including
original message in replies, comment text in forwards
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I pop
also my ax25 only bbs like BPQ in that way and reply
from Thunderbird with the proper ax25 identity<br>
using the smtp server in BPQ so Outpost is not necessary
here for ax25 mail as it all can be handled by
Thunderbird<br>
with the proper ax25 identity.<br>
<br>
Very convenient as I only need one application to handle
all kind of mail. <br>
<br>
Bob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14-12-16 12:15 AM, Michael E Fox
- N6MEF wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks
Bob.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yeah, I
was looking for a command line option. We use
Outpost as an AX.25 client and it does include the
original in the reply or forwarding message. We
don’t use POP because, well, if the Internet is
available, there are better POP mail servers! ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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