[aprssig] ANSRVR

Dale Urban chiefsfan2 at cox.net
Sat Dec 5 15:38:58 EST 2015


No the d7 and the yeasu did not

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> On Dec 5, 2015, at 13:21, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) via aprssig <aprssig at tapr.org> wrote:
> 
> Wait, are you now saying that the FT2D received the ANSRVR answer but the D7 did not?  That's the opposite of what you originally reported.
> 
> You can always use aprs.fi to see what's going on with ANSRVR messaging.
> 
> http://aprs.fi/?c=message&call=ANSRVR
> 
> shows that a ? was received from N0KQX-2 and a burst of answers was sent in reply.  Likely more than you'd really like to receive via RF.   A second ? was received 1 minute and 4 seconds later from the same station.
> 
> One minute after that, a ? was received from N0KQX-7.  1 minute 4 seconds later, another ? was received from N0KQX-2 followed by yet another 1 minute 3 seconds later.  Yet a fifth ? was received 1 minute 7 seconds after that from -2.
> 
> The messages view makes it appear that only the first ? was answered, but if you look at the raw packets:
> 
> http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=ANSRVR&limit=500&view=normal
> 
> You'll see that the same burst of 21 messages was sent for each received.  aprs.fi suppresses them as "Duplicate message content".
> 
> What I suspect is happening is that the local IGate is suppressing subsequent bursts of answers in order to keep the RF channel from being (over-)saturated.
> 
> Try a different query to ANSRVR that gets a shorter answer and it might work better.  Sending an "L" for instance will return only the groups that you are a member of, usually a much shorter answer.
> 
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
> 
> PS.  And yes, I need to go clean up a bunch of obsolete ANSRVR groups also...
> 
>> On 12/5/2015 12:43 PM, Dale Urban wrote:
>> Ok I just now sent a ? To ANSRVR with the yeasu ft2d using N0KQX-2 ant the kenwood d7 N0KQX-7. It replied to -2 but not -7. I also sent a beacon with WLNK-1 and I rx a reply showing I had mail. I watched as I sent it from the yeasu and noticed there were some extra characters sent?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 07:42, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) via aprssig <aprssig at tapr.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you try the pair of radios at (nearly) the same time?  It may be that ANSRVR was down when you tried the FT2DR.
>>> 
>>> Also, if you provide your callsign-SSID for each radio, I can check the ANSRVR logs to see what it may have heard.
>>> 
>>> Finally, make sure your local IGate is a) configured for gating messages from -IS to RF and 2) that the local IGate has "recently" heard a packet "local" enough to perform the (a) function.
>>> 
>>> You can also try a WHO-IS (or WHO-15) callsign lookup to determine if the issue lies with APRS messaging or the ANSRVR itself.
>>> 
>>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>>> 
>>> PS.  http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:aprs-messaging-explained is also a good read.
>>> 
>>>> On 12/4/2015 10:18 PM, Dale Urban via aprssig wrote:
>>>> A while back I posted how I wasn't getting a response from ANSRVR server. I was using my new yeasu ft2dr ht. I got out my trusty kenwood d7 ht and tried it and it worked fine. I was sending a ? To ANSRVR with both radios. I don't know what the difference is?
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