[aprssig] [APRS] DIGIPEATER Callsigns (by location) & common sense

Charles Doughtie n5exy at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 20 21:31:08 EDT 2014


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Hands off-info display
 
de Charlie, N5EXY, Grid EM10fl, 
South Suburban Greater Hutto




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>Subject: Re: [aprssig] [APRS] DIGIPEATER Callsigns (by location) & common	sense
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>AIRPort designators work if they somewhat match the city name, but some dont match at all, and wont be recognized by a m obile.
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>Yes, Gridsquares are a unique location, but when driving down the highway and FM18 would show up on the DISPLAY, I personally would have no clue where that is.  (yes, I canpush a few buttons and see what grid my APRS radio position is currently in, but still, I am *diving* and cannot/should not do that.  Also, it is hard to correlate across grid boundaries.  
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>IE, how far and in what directin is FM19 if I am in EN37?  Again, not human (hands-off) friendly.  
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>Remember:  Hands off-info display to the mobile operator is the #1 goal of APRS.
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>Bob, WB4APR
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>On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Jim Conrad <jjc at oceanviewcom.com> wrote:
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>If you really want to building and enhance a network that can automate routing and be self healing why not use grid squares since that actually does convey a fairly accurate location. Not as nice as ANNAP from a human readable format but somewhere in between. My own naming nomenclature for several nodes on the east coast of some IP infrastructure I own is to use the FAA designator of the nearest airport.
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>>Jim - N4WFP
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>>At 03:15 PM 7/19/2014, you wrote:
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>>> Ah because of your situation the whole world has to jump to your wishes?
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>>>No, not at all.  I'm simply saying I see the value of using a digipeater's
>>>location name instead of a ham callsign.  If it does not apply in anyone's
>>>situation, then don't do it.
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>>>But where it makes sense, it seems to work very well.
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>>>EXCEPT when people name them by their local reference, like GRNMTN for
>>>Green mountain when no one but the club members know where that is.  Then
>>>such a change accomplishes nothing, since local club members know both the
>>>CALL and the MOUNTAIN.  So there is no advantage.
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>>>But a name like WASHDC meaning it is the Washington DC digi, then that
>>>serves a useful purpose.
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>>>People need to think outside of their local box when thinking about how
>>>their local APRS digipeater serves travelers, and how it appears on their
>>>radio LISTS.
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>>>And if the BEACON contains the other recommended features like local FREQ
>>>objects, and Club Net times and Club meeting dates, then they can actually
>>>reachout to passing traveling hams.  The recommended format includes all
>>>that info in the single BEACON packet.
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>>>Ill be recommending a change of our local digi from N3UJJ-6 to ANNAP
>>>(Annapolis) when I get a chance.
>>>
>>>Bob, Wb4APR
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>>           Amateur Radio Callsign N4WFP
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