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 style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;">  <div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118467" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:18pt;"> <div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118466" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="" class="" id="yiv0062869272yqt25559"><div class="" dir="ltr" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118465" style=""> <hr class="" style="" size="1">  <font class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118471" style="" face="Arial" size="2"> <b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Robert Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu><br class="" style="" clear="none"> <b class="" style=""><span class=""
 style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig@tapr.org> <br class="" style="" clear="none"> <b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:52 PM<br class="" style="" clear="none"> <b class="" style=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] [APRS] DIGIPEATER Callsigns (by location) & common   sense<br class="" style="" clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118469" style=""><br class="" style="" clear="none"><div class="" id="yiv0062869272" style=""><div class="" dir="ltr" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118468" style=""><div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118470" style="">AIRPort designators work if they somewhat match the city name, but some dont match at all, and wont be recognized by a m obile.<br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class=""
 style="" clear="none"></div>Yes, Gridsquares are a unique location, but when driving down the highway and FM18 would show up on the DISPLAY, I personally would have no clue where that is.  (yes, I canpush a few buttons and see what grid my APRS radio position is currently in, but still, I am *diving* and cannot/should not do that.  Also, it
 is hard to correlate across grid boundaries.  <br class="" style="" clear="none">
<br class="" style="" clear="none">IE, how far and in what directin is FM19 if I am in EN37?  Again, not human (hands-off) friendly.  <br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class="" style="" clear="none">Remember:  Hands off-info display to the mobile operator is the #1 goal of APRS.<br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class="" style="" clear="none">Bob, WB4APR<br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class="" style="" clear="none">
<div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118476" style=""><div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118475" style=""><div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118474" style=""><br class="" style="" clear="none"><br class="" style="" clear="none"><div class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118473" style="">On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Jim Conrad <span class="" dir="ltr" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118485" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" style="" ymailto="mailto:jjc@oceanviewcom.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jjc@oceanviewcom.com">jjc@oceanviewcom.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="" style="" clear="none">
<blockquote class="" id="yiv0062869272yui_3_16_0_1_1405822603480_118472" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">If you really want to building and enhance a network that can automate routing and be self healing why not use grid squares since that actually does convey a fairly accurate location. Not as nice as ANNAP from a human readable format but somewhere in between. My own naming nomenclature for several nodes on the east coast of some IP infrastructure I own is to use the FAA designator of the nearest airport.<br class="" style="" clear="none">

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Jim - N4WFP<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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At 03:15 PM 7/19/2014, you wrote:<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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> Ah because of your situation the whole world has to jump to your wishes?<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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No, not at all.  I'm simply saying I see the value of using a digipeater's<br class="" style="" clear="none">
location name instead of a ham callsign.  If it does not apply in anyone's<br class="" style="" clear="none">
situation, then don't do it.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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But where it makes sense, it seems to work very well.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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EXCEPT when people name them by their local reference, like GRNMTN for<br class="" style="" clear="none">
Green mountain when no one but the club members know where that is.  Then<br class="" style="" clear="none">
such a change accomplishes nothing, since local club members know both the<br class="" style="" clear="none">
CALL and the MOUNTAIN.  So there is no advantage.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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But a name like WASHDC meaning it is the Washington DC digi, then that<br class="" style="" clear="none">
serves a useful purpose.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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People need to think outside of their local box when thinking about how<br class="" style="" clear="none">
their local APRS digipeater serves travelers, and how it appears on their<br class="" style="" clear="none">
radio LISTS.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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And if the BEACON contains the other recommended features like local FREQ<br class="" style="" clear="none">
objects, and Club Net times and Club meeting dates, then they can actually<br class="" style="" clear="none">
reachout to passing traveling hams.  The recommended format includes all<br class="" style="" clear="none">
that info in the single BEACON packet.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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Ill be recommending a change of our local digi from N3UJJ-6 to ANNAP<br class="" style="" clear="none">
(Annapolis) when I get a chance.<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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Bob, Wb4APR<br class="" style="" clear="none">
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