[aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR

Andrew P. andrewemt at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 17 17:07:54 EDT 2012


Whoops! Do you have me mixed up with someone else? ;-)

What about non-periodic messages at state-change times only? Since both the Echolink/Allstar/IRLP/??? gateways and the AVRS are up 24x7 and connected via reliable wired Internet links, they don't need constant beaconing.

Also, I note that there are several IRLP and Echolink gateways in my area that are beaconing anyway (not my doing) and being gated to the APRS-IS. If they put the additional state that AVRS needs in their beacons, it would be done (just more difficult for the AVRS server to filter out of the APRS-IS flood).

Up to $.03. ;-)

Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO
author of YAAC, not of AVRS ;-)
------Original Message------
From: Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
To: aprssig at tapr.org
Sent: Sep 17, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR


That would be wonderful, but when I offered to periodically update APRS 
objects for EchoLink nodes, I was resoundingly shot down because of the 
increased load on the APRS-IS.

I am considering a QRU-like server for these objects that would probably 
be the best hope.  (http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:qru) As a matter of 
fact, since you've already got all the data in your server, and are 
already fielding APRS messages, you'd be a shoe-in for implementing such 
a thing.  Drop me a line for details if you're interested.  It's really 
straight-forward.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 9/17/2012 4:37 PM, Andrew P. wrote:
> Perhaps a new APRS message could be defined specifically to beacon such gateways with the relevant parameters (most of which are in the standard position message anyway). Then we wouldn't need a back-door URL to get the data; AVRS could just use a type-filtered feed to get all the gateway beacons (regardless of which net they are on).
>
> Just my $.02.
>
> Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO
> ------Original Message------
> From: Bill Vodall
> To: aprssig at tapr.org
> Sent: Sep 17, 2012 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR
>
>
>> I.e. I need callsign, node number, lat/lon of node, RF characteristics
>> (freq/offset/tone), and status (connected, listening, down, etc)
>> Given that data I can poll it, update a local DB, map the nodes, and make
>> AllStar part of the AVRS protocol.
> Will this info be generally available on the APRS-IS so we can easily
> bring it to the RF domain without doing Internet magic...   (Yes - I
> know APRS-IS == Internet but there is a subtle difference...)
>
> 73
> Bill - WA7NWP
>
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