[aprssig] Why Not "Gate in Vicinity" (phones)

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) ldeffenb at homeside.to
Mon Dec 26 15:33:40 EST 2011

On 12/26/2011 3:03 PM, Andre wrote:
> I would agree but there is already a way around it, for aplications 
> like this a axudp based network instead of a text based network does 
> work, the igate just acts like a xband digipeater, they all connect to 
> one or more others just like on aprs-is and dupechecking keeps the 
> chaos under controll, digipeaters can digipeat unaltered paths without 
> setting has been digied bits back to other gate digipeaters and only 
> digipeats to 2 meter where the next digicall is theirs.
> The clients for this system will just have to select the nearest 
> digipeater for the path.

So under this proposal, with my APRS-UDP-enabled cellphone client 
configured for my "home" digipeater, when I travel across the continent 
all of my posits will traverse the Internet and come out via my home 
stomping ground's RF and I'm still not heard in my "local" area when 

Unless, of course, I reconfigure the digipeater I'm using to a local one...

And then when I return home having forgotten my re-configuration, my 
packets will be burping out on someone else's RF even though I'm no 
longer anywhere near there?

Or did I completely misunderstand how this new APRS-IS-replacement 
network would function?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

> probably could program digined on linux to do this in one evening 
> maybe even one hour.
> 73 Andre PE1RDW
> Op 26-12-2011 19:30, Pete Loveall AE5PL Lists schreef:
>> IGates don't send gated packets with their APRS-IS paths.  They are 
>> sent using third-party format.  Paths on APRS-IS have no meaning when 
>> gated to RF other than to determine if the packet originated on 
>> APRS-IS or on RF.
>> Sorry, this won't work either.  Remember, on APRS-IS there are no 
>> "smart phones"; there are only APRS-IS-connected clients and RF gated 
>> clients.  While the intent to have everyone's packets seen on RF 
>> seems noble on the surface, the implementation is not so noble.
>> 73,
>> Pete Loveall AE5PL
>> pete at ae5pl dot net
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Bruninga
>>> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 12:24 PM
>>> Can the APP be required to inject packets using the Proportional 
>>> Pathing
>>> Algorithm.  That is:
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