[aprssig] spaces in object names PROPOSAL

Bob Bruninga bruninga at usna.edu
Thu Aug 13 14:21:16 EDT 2009


>> The major APRS system that fails #3 and #4 
>> is UI-View, but we live with it...
>
> Could you please explain the UI-View failings 
> in regard to the above? 

Thanks.. Last I knew, if there is a TRACER (station) with the name for example of LEADER, and that tracker fails, then someone else cannot send a new object of the name LEADER and manually update its position for the remainder of the race.
Both LEADERs will remain on the map and no one externally can move, replace, or kill the original LEADER becasuse UIview kssps STATION names and OBJECT names separate.

As you have read recently, that was a fundamental APRS function, that NAMED things can be updated by anyone with better information and can take over and move anything on the virtual map, independent of whether it was a station or object.

I would be delighted if again, I got the wrong impression and am wrong in this regard.

And this is not just a trivial example.  For any event, I routinely look at the event map and if there are left over callsigns from mobiles or fixed stations all over my area from hours, or days ago, I often make identical objects (so I can take ownership) and then send out KILL packets to remove those objects from not just my screen, but every other screen and system.

We have to be able to remotely take over any "thing" on the shared "virtual situational displays" and move it, update it, or kill it as the immediate situation requires.

Everyone needs to remember that the FUNDAMENTAL mission of an "APRS operator" is to INPUT info, UPDATE info, MANAGE info so that the virtual situational display throughout the area is current.  Not just watch it as a map full of old, obsolete, stagnant and useless icons... that we are powerless to fix.

thanks
Bob, WB4APR

>With that said, I'm running VE7GDH-10 on my laptop (without saying, that 
>is UI-View) and was able to create an object of the same name.
>
>As an aside, UI-View wouldn't allow me to create an object that started 
>with a space, but I could use any character plus 8 spaces, or two 
>characters with 7 spaces in between. When there were 8 trailing spaces, 
>they showed in the frame in station details, but they were stripped in 
>the label on the map. I'll leave the objects "VE7GDH-10", "X        " 
>and "X       X" up for a while.
>
>73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
>--
>"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
>
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