[aprssig] TWP Local Info messages etc on a D7

Dave Baxter Dave at emv.co.uk
Tue Oct 21 09:31:56 EDT 2008

Cheers Brian, much as I thought.

"Wrong use" or not, it's what I (and many others) have, and sadly not
all of us have enough disposable income to finance a D700, let alone a
D710 in addition to (not everyone will want to replace) the portable D7
(It's too useful for other things)

I also suspect with the D7x0's, having to hit the "Details" button is a
bit of a failing in some circumstances, especially when truly mobile in
the cut and thrust of city driving.

There are lot's of good ideas here (this SIG) but sadly many of them to
my mind are not thought through, not just some of the finer details, but
some fundamental problems seem not to be recognised.  Mind you, I've
been there & done all that myself, so I shouldn't complain too much  ;-)

One idea, for those who like poking around things....   There is a well
known "Hack" where you can persuade the steering wheel mounted audio
controls of some models from a well known German car maker, to control
the functions of an iPod.   Perhaps some clever bright spark could
figure out how to use the same, to for example, poke the "Details"
button on a D700/710.


Dave G0WBX (not a German car driver!)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian B. Riley [mailto:brianbr at mac.com] 
> Sent: 20 October 2008 16:03
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] TWP Local Info messages etc on a D7
> To my way of thinking the answer is simple, you don't!
> This is the  wrong use of the D7. It is a hand held made to 
> be looked at up close not glanced at 50-100 cm  in a mobile 
> environ .... if it were a D700/D710 and a message comes 
> through, you can hit the 'details' button and the message 
> will freeze and not be overlaid on the screen by a subsequent 
> transmission.
> I speak this with a certain amount of authority as I started 
> with one of the early D7s using it mobile and that experience 
> steeled my resolution to get the D700 as soon as it appeared 
> on the market. There simply is no really 'safe' way to use a 
> D7 as anything other than a 'semi' dumb tracker if you are 
> the driver. Even with a cradle the screen was never designed 
> to be read from beyond 50 cm, it requires too much 
> concentration be diverted from driving.
> On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:02 AM, Dave Baxter wrote:
> > Question...
> >
> > Just how do I stop such Local Information messages from 
> getting zapped 
> > a fraction of a second later, when the next beacon comes in on a D7?
> > (Assuming it somehow manages to display a three line 
> message, on a two 
> > line window!)  I'm not going to pull over to mess with the message 
> > list,
> > nor mess with it while driving, am I?   Is there a setting I havent
> > found on the D7(e) that "fixes" such messages so they can 
> be seen?    
> > Or
> > is this a fundamental flaw in the scheme of things?
> >
> > 73.
> >
> > Dave G0WBX.
> --
> cheers ... 73 de brian  riley,  n1bq , underhill center, vermont
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