[aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality

Greg D. ko6th_greg at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 12 00:22:21 EDT 2008

I disagree.  A house may not move, but someone who is moving through the area will need to know where the weather information he just received came from.  I find it very useful to get weather reports on my D7, and count on the station's position relative to mine to interpret what I see.

Greg  KO6TH

> From: daron at wilson.org
> To: aprssig at lists.tapr.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:26:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality
> Most of our 11 weather stations are not base stations, they are digipeaters
> on hilltops. 
> At any rate, the whole reason to transmit is to provide information.  We
> transmit weather every 5 minutes and believe that to be reasonable.  The
> data that is transmitted from the weather station can change considerably in
> 5 minutes, and we find this service to be valuable to our supporters and
> especially the NWS.
> I will agree transmitting the position of your house with NO changing data
> over and over is of little value (IMHO).  Mobile objects that are resources
> are a different story, if they are stationary for 12 hours and then mobile
> that makes sense.  But a house?  We do transmit objects such as our voice
> repeaters, but only locally.
> 73
> www.ocrg.org/telemetry_feed/ocrgwx.html
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-
>> bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Brian B. Riley
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:42 AM
>> To: ve1aic at yahoo.com; TAPR APRS Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality
>> The point is that a weather station is more than just a base station.
>> When we started the weather program back in  the 90's using the TAPR
>> T-238 with the DalSemi OneWire weather station we settled on averaging
>> and reporting every 5 minutes. This was the happy compromise between
>> timely data for the NWS and network congestion. We had the 238 doing
>> some of  the processing utlimately done at the far end.
>>   The guys doing 1 minute broadcasts are wrong, but calling it a base
>> station and restricting it to 10 minutes is equally ill-informed. Its
>> a classic quick-fix that resolves nothing. The weather guys need some
>> processing added to their controllers and need to throttle back to 5
>> minutes. They also need to analyze their topology and see just how
>> many of them really need three hops.
>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Ron wrote:
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>  A WX station transmitting on RF is just another base station, and
>>> as such should always follow standard beacon times.
>>> Anyone beaconing from a base station at more than every 10 minutes
>>> is irresponsible when well known standards are at rates of 15-20
>>> minutes.
>>> The beacon path should also follow local standards for base stations.
>>> Some dialog with wx ops is necessary as they appear to be in need of
>>> some education on the subject.
>>> 73, Ron VE1AIC
>>> VE1AIC-4 Wx APRS
>> --
>> cheers ... 73 de brian  riley,  n1bq , underhill center, vermont
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