[aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality

Daron Wilson daron at wilson.org
Mon Aug 11 20:26:51 EDT 2008

Most of our 11 weather stations are not base stations, they are digipeaters
on hilltops. 

At any rate, the whole reason to transmit is to provide information.  We
transmit weather every 5 minutes and believe that to be reasonable.  The
data that is transmitted from the weather station can change considerably in
5 minutes, and we find this service to be valuable to our supporters and
especially the NWS.

I will agree transmitting the position of your house with NO changing data
over and over is of little value (IMHO).  Mobile objects that are resources
are a different story, if they are stationary for 12 hours and then mobile
that makes sense.  But a house?  We do transmit objects such as our voice
repeaters, but only locally.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-
> bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Brian B. Riley
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:42 AM
> To: ve1aic at yahoo.com; TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality
> The point is that a weather station is more than just a base station.
> When we started the weather program back in  the 90's using the TAPR
> T-238 with the DalSemi OneWire weather station we settled on averaging
> and reporting every 5 minutes. This was the happy compromise between
> timely data for the NWS and network congestion. We had the 238 doing
> some of  the processing utlimately done at the far end.
>   The guys doing 1 minute broadcasts are wrong, but calling it a base
> station and restricting it to 10 minutes is equally ill-informed. Its
> a classic quick-fix that resolves nothing. The weather guys need some
> processing added to their controllers and need to throttle back to 5
> minutes. They also need to analyze their topology and see just how
> many of them really need three hops.
> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Ron wrote:
> > Hi Tony,
> >  A WX station transmitting on RF is just another base station, and
> > as such should always follow standard beacon times.
> >
> > Anyone beaconing from a base station at more than every 10 minutes
> > is irresponsible when well known standards are at rates of 15-20
> > minutes.
> >
> > The beacon path should also follow local standards for base stations.
> >
> > Some dialog with wx ops is necessary as they appear to be in need of
> > some education on the subject.
> >
> > 73, Ron VE1AIC
> > VE1AIC-4 Wx APRS
> --
> cheers ... 73 de brian  riley,  n1bq , underhill center, vermont
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