[aprssig] Need Path Mentoring

Robbie, wa9inf mwrobertson at comcast.net
Thu Sep 20 22:12:11 EDT 2007


Steve, I've logged a couple of the WIDE3-3 alias substitution over the 
past weekend.. I believe some one was trying to set something up, but it 
has been difficult for me to drive around very much with just a path of 
WIDE1-1 and locate the station. It seems to have stopped by me??

Robbie

Steve Noskowicz wrote:
> 
> 
>   Man!  Every time I think I “get” paths and try
> looking, I realize I have far exceeded the half-life
> of the knowledge.  I also understand that the new
> paradigm and reality aren’t necessarily equal which
> can cause confusion as well.
> 
>   Looking in the menu, I verify that my D700 is set
> for WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,   which I believe is supported
> by:
> 
>     
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Fl!h>/]"6]}
> 
> Meaning that:  IGate N9IOG heard me directly and shot
> me into the APRS-IS, right?  _____
> 
> 
>   Yet, the other day, I was watching the Packet
> Monitor and I saw  “WIDE3…” associated with some of my
> packets.  And, lo-and-behold, there’re popping out on
> the net as well (shown below – they seem to ‘prefer’
> appearing in pairs).  
>   I can’t get this to fit what I thought the paradigm
> is.  
>    So, what are possible interpretations?
> 
> 1- My D700 needs its sinuses cleared?
> 
> 2- Seeing WIDE3-3 in the first slot suggests a Digi is
> substituting “WIDE3-3” for my “WIDE1-1” since there
> are digi calls after it?  Eh?
> 
> Excerpts from Raw data:
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ABC-10*,WIDE2,qAo,N9QBW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> 
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,WX9MKX,WIDE2*,qAo,N9QIP:'t(Fl!h>/]"6`}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ABC-10*,WIDE2,qAo,N9QIP:'t(Fl!h>/]"6a}
> 
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6]}
> 
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3*,K8BRC*,WIDE2*,qAo,N8FQ:'t(El-Q>/]
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0T,WIDE3-3*,K8BRC*,WIDE2*,qAo,N8FQ:'t(EliW>/]"6[}
> 
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(El-Q>/]
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0T,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(EliW>/]"6[}
> 
> Note that in these examples, there are actual call
> signs with the “*” appended.  Is that part of “The
> New”??  or a mix of new and old.   I thought the “old”
> was to accept it and append the “*”,   but new is only
> to substitute – but remember that half-life effect.
> (:-).
> 
>   Then come the other path questions.
> 
> Seeing this:
>  K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t+O
> Hu>/]"6X}
> Does this say that K9ESV-3 is accepting the WIDE1-1?  
> Also, rather than substituting, is it *inserting* its
> call and putting the “*” after the “WIDE1” part of the
> “WIDE1-1”  ???
> 
> I guess I’ll stop here.  This appears to be a mixing
> of call sign substitution and the old paradigm –
> something that is not entirely out of the question. 
> The fella doing K9ESV, while a nice guy trying to do
> it correctly, has expressed doubt and asked me (yea,
> right) to look at his parameters.
> More packets from findu or here’s the link to my Raw
> packets:
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=K9DCI-9
> 
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t+O
> Hu>/]"6X}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2S,N9IJ-10,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t*,ofu>/]"6T}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV0Y,N9IJ-10,WIDE1,NS9RC,WIDE2*,qAO,AB9FX:'t)L
> g*>/]"6K}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t+O
> Hu>/]"6X}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2S,N9IJ-10,WIDE1,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t*,ofu>/]"6T}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV9W,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(emzz>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,N9MXQ:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV9W,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t(emzz>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6`}
> K9DCI-9>TRRW0V,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(El45>/]"6Y}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(ll"f>/]"6^}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,K9SA,N9IJ-10,WIDE2*,qAR,N9OIG:'t(ll"f>/]"6_}
> K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,K9SA,N9IJ-10,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(ll"f>/]"6^}
> 
> 73 Steve, l9DCI
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