[aprssig] "Out-of-order" data on APRS-IS
VE7GDH
ve7gdh at rac.ca
Tue Aug 9 22:00:19 EDT 2005
I've got my own "out-of-order" story. VE7CUU-14 came for a visit today.
While viewing his track (UI-View32 / PMapServer 7 / UI-HeightTrack but
that's irrelevant) I noticed that just before he got here, he jumped back to
a previous position, and then on to what should have been the next position
after the one that he "jumped back" from. I have seen this numerous times
over in the Vancouver BC area, but this time, I was able to understand the
evidence. Here are the last few position reports.
20050809171522,VE7CUU-14>TXUPQT,VE7SFU-10*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7DID-1:`39k/164.520
SX
20050809171628,VE7CUU-14>TXTYVY,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38\o!gk/
20050809171632,VE7CUU-14>TXUPQT,VE7IPB-10,VE7CX-10,WIDE2*,qAR,KD7NM:`39k/164.520
SX
20050809171723,VE7CUU-14>TXTYSU,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38Un!Qk/
20050809171801,VE7CUU-14>TXTYQU,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38An5$k/164.520 SX
20050809172019,VE7CUU-14>TXTXXU,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37Hlp!k/
20050809172125,VE7CUU-14>TXTYPW,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37]lq
k/
20050809172211,VE7CUU-14>TXTYPP,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37Fm+Tk/
It is in MIC-E format, but notice the first position shown `39k and gated by
VE7DID-1. Then jump down two lines and you will see the same position again,
but gated a full minute and 10 seconds later, but via a different path and
gated by KD7NM down towards Seattle WA.
Someone had suggested earlier that it could be a digi not running with the
squelch wide open and with it hanging onto the packet until the squelch
eventually closed. I suppose it could also be a case of the frequency being
so busy that a particular digi was holding off until there was a moment of
silence before digipeating the "held" packet. There is also a possibility of
some kind of a delay being introduced by KD7NM but you would think that
others would have noticed it before now. Just thought I would throw this out
at the SIG. I will send a copy to the NWAPRS list shortly to let the
"locals" mull it over.
By the way, ignore the typo in the status text. It should of course be
146.520 SX. That will be re-programmed shortly, as well as getting rid of
the RELAY in the path. Also I was just gating the beacons I heard. I don't
digipeat anything via RELAY.
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
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