FW: [aprssig] APRS on RF?

Herb Gerhardt hgerhardt at wavecable.com
Wed Apr 13 19:53:02 EDT 2005

Guess, I did not use the correct address the first time.

We already had a few discussions on our NW APRS SIG regarding this post, so
I just want to make it clear that I am staging "NORMALLY" use 5 watts for
transmitting.  Yes, I am aware that there are many areas in this
country/world (Canada) that can not hit any digi with 5 watts.  The bottom
line is to use the lowest power level that you can that will normally but
not necessarily always get you into your local APRS network.


-----Original Message-----
From: nwaprssig-request at nwaprs.org [mailto:nwaprssig-request at nwaprs.org]
On Behalf Of Herb Gerhardt
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: SIG, nwaprssig
Cc: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
Subject: FW: [aprssig] APRS on RF?

Just to show you how "good" we are doing here in the NW.  We "solved" the
problem they are having several years ago through setting changes and
educating our people via this sig.  Of course there are exceptions since you
will never reach every user to conform with our recommendations.

Note that Dennis is missing the point of the "new" paradigm discussions.  A
WIDE,WIDE3-3 is not recommended anywhere any more because the original WIDE
will be duplicated!  That is why the "new" paradigm uses WIDE1-1 instead of
RELAY or just a plain WIDE.  A WIDE1-1 will not be duplicated by a digi
where a plain WIDE will be duplicated because dupe elimination only works on

And please remember that home stations and all mobiles should normally only
use 5 watts for transmitting on APRS.  It only takes a few people in a
congested area using 50 watts to ruin it for everyone else.  Please be

Herb, KB7UVC
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator
Our WEB Site:  http://www.nwaprs.org

My NEW Email Address:  hgerhardt at wavecable.com

-----Original Message-----
From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:09 AM
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS on RF?

Sorry Jason, I realize how much you like APRS. But you are dealing with
egos here. In the northeast we have it many times worse. I have to run
50 watts and a beam to get my WX reports 1 hop to the local digi (7
miles los) with flooded traffic from the greater metro area of
Eastern/Central MA, CT RI and NH. We still have a groups of "operators"
running RELAY,WIDE3-3 every 10 minutes over 120 miles away that are
killing us.

With the problems with UI-Digi, even a WIDE3-3 is like WIDE,WIDE3-3
which makes tons of copies all over the place. Spanning 200+ miles.
It's a friggin mess up here. We were recommending a directed path of
<localdigi>,WIDE. This should produce no dupes and still takes most
packets out 60+ miles

Sorry Bob, your message is NOT getting out there. I'm getting horse
repeating it.

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