[nos-bbs] rip broadcasts in jnos

[Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty]

All TV channels arrive nowadays over tcp/ip in those Rogers boxes according to my information when they upgraded their system so it shouldn't matter and in general they don't use CGNAT for those.

Boudewijn VE3TOK

On 3/6/26 18:19, jerome schatten wrote:
> OK Bob, thanks!
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> Now, how to tell if his router is using CGNAT? Is there a way to find out? Mine is more or less a standard Hytron CPE box and it has always just worked. His situation, as I understand it, seems more like a streaming service -- his box has his TV stuff and other services on it, and he has to contact Rogers to do things like turn on/off DMZ, and access other network functions.
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> So, this would be a completely different problem set if ipip is being blocked at the Rogers' end -- he would have to decide how and if he really wants to proceed.
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> So, back to my question #2 -- How to find out if ipip is being blocked at Rogers? Maybe it's sensible to call Rogers and ask them <g>?
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> Best,
> jerome
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty" <bob at tenty.ca>
> To: "TAPR xNOS Mailing List" <nos-bbs at lists.tapr.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2026 1:17:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] rip broadcasts in jnos
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> His router has to pass IPIP/IPENCAP, that is  tcp/ip protocol 4 to receive RIP, that is a prerequisite. If his router can't be setup as such, he can install DD-WRT in it if that is available for the chipset in this router.
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> Make sure that his ISP is not using Carier-Grade NAT (CGNAT) as that is blocking incoming IPIP (and more) at the ISP level.  If he is behind CGNAT or the problem with his router can't be solved, he can sign up
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> to 44Net connect at https://connect.44net.cloud/ of ARDC  and use a WireGuard VPN tunnel, that gives a tunnel 44 address. If his WireGuard tunnel is working he can use that tunnel 44 address instead of his
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> commercial address in his portal entry. In that way he bypasses all problems and can receive IPIP / IPENCAP and so RIP.
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> 73, Boudewijn VE3TOK
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> On 3/6/26 12:30, jerome schatten wrote:
>> Greetings....
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>> Over time, I have been working with a jnos partner to try and understand why he cannot receive rip broadcasts. His set-up in jnos is identical to mine, and his set-up at the portal is identical to mine. I receive the rip broadcasts, and he does not. Both of us are using raspberry pi's, and both are running headless (ssh in to start jnos).
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>> 1. Can someone detail the 'necessary conditions' which must be met before a station can receive rip broadcasts using jnos?
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>> 2. If those conditions are satisfied, and still no rip broadcasts, what tools can be used to determine where the problem is?
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>> Thanks for your insight..
>> Jerome - VE7ASS/VE7POO
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