[nos-bbs] mbox fbb setting

'Gustavo Ponza' g.ponza at tin.it
Sun Apr 3 06:19:40 EDT 2016


HI Michael,

technically speaking saying BF is different than B1F as per the 
specification
and that it should be also on practice.

The fact on the JNOS2 is that: while the B2F implementation is an *original*
feature filled on to JNOS2 by Maiko, and it function very well on forwarding
between JNOS2 <> JNOS2 and between JNOS2 <> CMS, the BF SID shown
since the old DOS JNOS and living intact until a few years ago was a perhaps
false and however *incomplete* implementation of that part of FBB protocol.

So, after that discover, Maiko spent many time to understand *what* and
*how* the BF implementation was done... so it is a work in progress, and
not simple to manage... this is one of the main reasons concerned I seem
to catch from the text of the Maiko msg. Perhaps could be a good way
to fully strip all old code and re-implement a new one... :)

73, gus

On 04/03/2016 07:12 AM, Michael Fox - N6MEF wrote:
>
> Hi Gus,
>
> Thanks for the summary.
>
> A correction/clarification:
>
> When I set “mbox fbb 2”, my JNOS responds with BF in the SID, not 
> B1F.  The FBB website describes B1F as different from BF.
>
> http://www.f6fbb.org/protocole.html
>
> Michael
>
> N6MEF
>
> *From:*nos-bbs [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *'Gustavo Ponza'
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 2, 2016 4:03 PM
> *To:* TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [nos-bbs] mbox fbb setting
>
>
>
>     I wish some of the 'seasoned' guys would say something about this.
>     Sorry
>     if I'm putting any of them on the spot, but I've spent hours and
>     hours on
>     this stuff and it's getting frustrating trying to nail things down :(
>
>
> I'm very sorry about this troubles, and first of all I want to TNX Maiko
> for its efforts on support the hamradio community!
>
> So, go ahead, the possible (so called) FBB flags are:
>
> The flag option may be one of the following:
>
> ·*0* > standard WA7MBL-style forwarding
>
> ·*1* > FBB batched-style forwarding
>
> ·*2* > FBB compressed and batched forwarding (B1F)
>
> ·*3* > B2F compression for WL2K [only for jnos2.0f2 or later]
>
>
> and since the B2F contains the B1F capabilities (owned by FBB and others)
> why come back to 1980s by using the MBL style? No sense!
>
> Since a few years after the progress on B1F and B2F made on the JNOS2
> I removed the old setup and so in the JNOS-2.0j.7v era they remains:
>
> #mbox fbb 0
> #mbox nob2f <callsign> # not more needed as of JNOS-2.0j.4
>
>
> in that situation the JNOS2 reply and confirm to us:
>
> "Default to Mailbox FBB Style Forwarding: 3"
>
> and the related SID shows the FLAGS "B2FHIM$".
>
> About the forwarding capabilities of the actual JNOS2, my tests
> and the daily forwarding confirm the full compatibility with the
> linux xdfbb-7.0.8b (November 2015) and some (NOT ALL) of the
> previous versions.
>
> The 'telnet' setup on the side of xfbb should be:
>
> # Linux AX.25 port
> #P A
> # Telnet port
> P B
> #
> # No compression [N 0]
> N 1
> #
> IF H 00-23
>  S connected failure busy
>  C C IR0RM-1 44.134.32.233 23
>  V i0ojj$Wxxxnnnxxx$W
> ENDIF
>
> mandatory, for now, is to setup 'N 1'.
>
> Note for Maiko: the problem seems reside on the fact that
> the FBB and some other terminal packet programs need a
> transparent TCP connection rather than the full TELNET
> protocol.
>
> On the JNOS2 side set the connection to:
>
> # for xfbb 7.05g/7.0.8 [ir0aab-1] <- telnet fwd OK (N 1)
> telnet 44.134.32.240 6300
>
> For other PBBS software, FBB or not, the only way is
> to forward via the AX.25: it function very OK; example:
>
> ax25 xnet ir0aab-1 i0ojj-3
>
> That's all!
> 1.00 AM here: good night!
>
> 73, gus
>
>
>
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