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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">HI Michael,<br>
<br>
technically speaking saying BF is different than B1F as per the
specification<br>
and that it should be also on practice.<br>
<br>
The fact on the JNOS2 is that: while the B2F implementation is an
*original*<br>
feature filled on to JNOS2 by Maiko, and it function very well on
forwarding<br>
between JNOS2 <> JNOS2 and between JNOS2 <> CMS, the
BF SID shown<br>
since the old DOS JNOS and living intact until a few years ago was
a perhaps<br>
false and however *incomplete* implementation of that part of FBB
protocol.<br>
<br>
So, after that discover, Maiko spent many time to understand
*what* and<br>
*how* the BF implementation was done... so it is a work in
progress, and<br>
not simple to manage... this is one of the main reasons concerned
I seem<br>
to catch from the text of the Maiko msg. Perhaps could be a good
way<br>
to fully strip all old code and re-implement a new one... :)<br>
<br>
73, gus<br>
<br>
On 04/03/2016 07:12 AM, Michael Fox - N6MEF wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Hi
Gus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Thanks
for the summary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">A
correction/clarification:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">When
I set “mbox fbb 2”, my JNOS responds with BF in the SID, not
B1F. The FBB website describes B1F as different from BF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.f6fbb.org/protocole.html"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.f6fbb.org/protocole.html">http://www.f6fbb.org/protocole.html</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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nos-bbs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org">mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>'Gustavo Ponza'<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 2, 2016 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org"><nos-bbs@tapr.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] mbox fbb setting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I wish
some of the 'seasoned' guys would say something about
this. Sorry <br>
if I'm putting any of them on the spot, but I've spent
hours and hours on <br>
this stuff and it's getting frustrating trying to nail
things down :( <o:p></o:p></p>
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I'm very sorry about this troubles, and first of all I want
to TNX Maiko<br>
for its efforts on support the hamradio community!<br>
<br>
So, go ahead, the possible (so called) FBB flags are: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The flag
option may be one of the following: <o:p></o:p></p>
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
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> standard WA7MBL-style forwarding <o:p></o:p></p>
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
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> FBB batched-style forwarding <o:p></o:p></p>
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> FBB compressed and batched forwarding (B1F)<o:p></o:p></p>
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span
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> B2F compression for WL2K [only for jnos2.0f2 or later]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><br>
and since the B2F contains the B1F capabilities (owned by
FBB and others)<br>
why come back to 1980s by using the MBL style? No sense!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Since a few years after the progress on B1F and B2F made on
the JNOS2<br>
I removed the old setup and so in the JNOS-2.0j.7v era they
remains:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>#mbox fbb 0<br>
#mbox nob2f <callsign> # not more needed as of
JNOS-2.0j.4<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
in that situation the JNOS2 reply and confirm to us:<br>
<br>
"Default to Mailbox FBB Style Forwarding: 3"<br>
<br>
and the related SID shows the FLAGS "B2FHIM$".<br>
<br>
About the forwarding capabilities of the actual JNOS2, my
tests<br>
and the daily forwarding confirm the full compatibility with
the<br>
linux xdfbb-7.0.8b (November 2015) and some (NOT ALL) of the<br>
previous versions.<br>
<br>
The 'telnet' setup on the side of xfbb should be:<br>
<br>
# Linux AX.25 port<br>
#P A<br>
# Telnet port<br>
P B<br>
#<br>
# No compression [N 0]<br>
N 1<br>
#<br>
IF H 00-23<br>
S connected failure busy<br>
C C IR0RM-1 44.134.32.233 23<br>
V i0ojj$Wxxxnnnxxx$W<br>
ENDIF<br>
<br>
mandatory, for now, is to setup 'N 1'.<br>
<br>
Note for Maiko: the problem seems reside on the fact that<br>
the FBB and some other terminal packet programs need a<br>
transparent TCP connection rather than the full TELNET<br>
protocol.<br>
<br>
On the JNOS2 side set the connection to:<br>
<br>
# for xfbb 7.05g/7.0.8 [ir0aab-1] <- telnet fwd OK (N 1)<br>
telnet 44.134.32.240 6300<br>
<br>
For other PBBS software, FBB or not, the only way is<br>
to forward via the AX.25: it function very OK; example:<br>
<br>
ax25 xnet ir0aab-1 i0ojj-3<br>
<br>
That's all!<br>
1.00 AM here: good night!<br>
<br>
73, gus<o:p></o:p></p>
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