[nos-bbs] nos-bbs Digest, Vol 102, Issue 2
JJ
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Wed Jan 2 08:06:35 EST 2013
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> 1. Re: odd station (John W. Kitz)
> 2. Re: odd station (jerome schatten)
> 3. two jnos computers on same lan... (jerome schatten)
> 4. Re: two jnos computers on same lan... correction (jerome schatten)
> 5. Re: two jnos computers on same lan... correction (Mark Phillips)
> 6. Re: two jnos computers on same lan... correction
> (Michael Fox - N6MEF)
> 7. Re: two jnos computers on same lan... correction (jerome schatten)
> 8. Re: two jnos computers on same lan... correction (jerome schatten)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:32:55 +0100
> From: "John W. Kitz" <John.Kitz at xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] odd station
> To: <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
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> Gents,
>
>
>
> IQ0RF appears to be an Italian call sign listed on http://www.cisarnet.it/,
> where you can find the name of the person to whom it belongs as well. You
> might try contacting one of the coordinators of Cisarnet as listed on
> http://www.lnd.cisarnet.it/index.php?option=com_content
> <http://www.lnd.cisarnet.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&
> Itemid=93> &view=article&id=52&Itemid=93 to get the transmissions stopped.
>
>
>
> Regards, Jk.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 08:27:41 -0800
> From: jerome schatten <romers at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] odd station
> To: John.Kitz at xs4all.nl, TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
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> Thank you JK... we will do that.
> HNY
> jerome - ve7ass
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 16:32 +0100, John W. Kitz wrote:
>> Gents,
>>
>>
>>
>> IQ0RF appears to be an Italian call sign listed on
>> http://www.cisarnet.it/, where you can find the name of the person to
>> whom it belongs as well. You might try contacting one of the
>> coordinators of Cisarnet as listed on
>> http://www.lnd.cisarnet.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=93 to get the transmissions stopped.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards, Jk.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:57:03 -0800
> From: jerome schatten <romers at shaw.ca>
> Subject: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan...
> To: nos-bbs <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
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> I'm trying to get _two separate computers_ on the _same LAN_, each
> running jnos, to talk to each other via an axip link. Should be
> easy-peasy but I can't seem to get it to work.
>
> Pings:
>
> Each instance of jnos has a tun interface that works. Each jnos has a
> ethernet connection to the router. Each jnos, from the jnos prompt
> 'jnos>' or the bbs prompt, can ping both sides of their respective tun
> interfaces and the router. Each can ping hosts outside the LAN from the
> jnos prompt or the bbs prompt.
>
> But they cannot ping each other nor connect to each other -- they don't
> see each other at all.
>
> Here's how I set things up for each machine (excerpted from
> autoexec.nos):
>
>
> Computer #1's jnos ip: 44.135.160.40
> lan ip: 192.168.1.102
> tun0: linux 192.168.1.148 <-> 192.168.1.149 jnos
> 44.135.160.40 encap 192.168.1.102 (in route add statement)
> route add default tun0
>
> Axip link from #1 to #2
> #####################################
> attach axip nr2 236 44.135.172.130 ve7ass-7
> ifconfig nr2 ipaddress 44.135.160.40
> ifconfig nr2 description "nr1 to nr2"
> blah-blah
> [...]
>
> ================================================
>
> Computer #2: jnos ip: 44.135.160.40 ve7poo-7
> Lan ip: 192.168.1.107
> tun0: linux 192.168.1.144 <-> 192.168.1.145 jnos
> 44.135.172.130 encap 192.168.1.107 (in route add statement)
> route add default tun0
>
> Axip link from #2 to #1
> ###################################
> attach axip nr1 236 44.135.160.40
> ifconfig nr1 ipaddress 44.135.172.130
> ifconfig description "nr2 to nr1"
> blah-blah
> [...]
> ===============================================
>
> Where have I gone wrong with this?
> Thanks in advance and HNY!
> jerome ve7ass
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:06:15 -0800
> From: jerome schatten <romers at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
> Message-ID: <1357081575.2495.70.camel at orange.com>
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> Small correction for Computer#2 below:
> j.
>
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:57 -0800, jerome schatten wrote:
>
>> Computer #1's jnos ip: 44.135.160.40
>> lan ip: 192.168.1.102
>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.148 <-> 192.168.1.149 jnos
>> 44.135.160.40 encap 192.168.1.102 (in route add statement)
>> route add default tun0
>>
>> Axip link from #1 to #2
>> #####################################
>> attach axip nr2 236 44.135.172.130 ve7ass-7
>> ifconfig nr2 ipaddress 44.135.160.40
>> ifconfig nr2 description "nr1 to nr2"
>> blah-blah
>> [...]
>>
>> ================================================
>>
>> Computer #2: jnos ip: 44.135.160.40 ### (call removed)
>> Lan ip: 192.168.1.107
>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.144 <-> 192.168.1.145 jnos
>> 44.135.172.130 encap 192.168.1.107 (in route add statement)
>> route add default tun0
>>
>> Axip link from #2 to #1
>> ###################################
>> attach axip nr1 236 44.135.160.40 ve7poo-7 #### (call added)
>> ifconfig nr1 ipaddress 44.135.172.130
>> ifconfig description "nr2 to nr1"
>> blah-blah
>> [...]
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 20:47:42 -0500
> From: Mark Phillips <g7ltt at g7ltt.com>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
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> 2 questions....
>
> 1why bother with axip on a wired network? IMHO this is a plain waste of
> effort.
>
> 2 can the machines talk to each other at a lower level (eg ping)?
> On Jan 1, 2013 6:06 PM, "jerome schatten" <romers at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Small correction for Computer#2 below:
>> j.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:57 -0800, jerome schatten wrote:
>>
>>> Computer #1's jnos ip: 44.135.160.40
>>> lan ip: 192.168.1.102
>>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.148 <-> 192.168.1.149 jnos
>>> 44.135.160.40 encap 192.168.1.102 (in route add statement)
>>> route add default tun0
>>>
>>> Axip link from #1 to #2
>>> #####################################
>>> attach axip nr2 236 44.135.172.130 ve7ass-7
>>> ifconfig nr2 ipaddress 44.135.160.40
>>> ifconfig nr2 description "nr1 to nr2"
>>> blah-blah
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> ================================================
>>>
>>> Computer #2: jnos ip: 44.135.160.40 ### (call removed)
>>> Lan ip: 192.168.1.107
>>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.144 <-> 192.168.1.145 jnos
>>> 44.135.172.130 encap 192.168.1.107 (in route add statement)
>>> route add default tun0
>>>
>>> Axip link from #2 to #1
>>> ###################################
>>> attach axip nr1 236 44.135.160.40 ve7poo-7 #### (call added)
>>> ifconfig nr1 ipaddress 44.135.172.130
>>> ifconfig description "nr2 to nr1"
>>> blah-blah
>>> [...]
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> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 17:48:00 -0800
> From: "Michael Fox - N6MEF" <n6mef at mefox.org>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
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> Both of your JNOS machines have the same IP address below.
>
> There's probably a typo or two in there somewhere.
>
> The solution to this type of things is usually in the routing. Check the
> JNOS and Linux routing tables to make sure both have the right information
> to reach the other.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf
> Of jerome schatten
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:06 PM
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
>
> Small correction for Computer#2 below:
> j.
>
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:57 -0800, jerome schatten wrote:
>
>> Computer #1's jnos ip: 44.135.160.40
>> lan ip: 192.168.1.102
>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.148 <-> 192.168.1.149 jnos
>> 44.135.160.40 encap 192.168.1.102 (in route add statement) route add
>> default tun0
>>
>> Axip link from #1 to #2
>> #####################################
>> attach axip nr2 236 44.135.172.130 ve7ass-7
>> ifconfig nr2 ipaddress 44.135.160.40
>> ifconfig nr2 description "nr1 to nr2"
>> blah-blah
>> [...]
>>
>> ================================================
>>
>> Computer #2: jnos ip: 44.135.160.40 ### (call removed)
>> Lan ip: 192.168.1.107
>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.144 <-> 192.168.1.145 jnos
>> 44.135.172.130 encap 192.168.1.107 (in route add statement) route add
>> default tun0
>>
>> Axip link from #2 to #1
>> ###################################
>> attach axip nr1 236 44.135.160.40 ve7poo-7 #### (call added) ifconfig
>> nr1 ipaddress 44.135.172.130 ifconfig description "nr2 to nr1"
>> blah-blah
>> [...]
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:24:46 -0800
> From: jerome schatten <romers at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
> Message-ID: <1357093486.2495.73.camel at orange.com>
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> Thank you all... yes it was a typo (same ip addy). Fixed that and still
> the prob. persists. More scratching of head.
> j.
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 17:48 -0800, Michael Fox - N6MEF wrote:
>> Both of your JNOS machines have the same IP address below.
>>
>> There's probably a typo or two in there somewhere.
>>
>> The solution to this type of things is usually in the routing. Check the
>> JNOS and Linux routing tables to make sure both have the right information
>> to reach the other.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf
>> Of jerome schatten
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:06 PM
>> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
>>
>> Small correction for Computer#2 below:
>> j.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:57 -0800, jerome schatten wrote:
>>
>>> Computer #1's jnos ip: 44.135.160.40
>>> lan ip: 192.168.1.102
>>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.148 <-> 192.168.1.149 jnos
>>> 44.135.160.40 encap 192.168.1.102 (in route add statement) route add
>>> default tun0
>>>
>>> Axip link from #1 to #2
>>> #####################################
>>> attach axip nr2 236 44.135.172.130 ve7ass-7
>>> ifconfig nr2 ipaddress 44.135.160.40
>>> ifconfig nr2 description "nr1 to nr2"
>>> blah-blah
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> ================================================
>>>
>>> Computer #2: jnos ip: 44.135.160.40 ### (call removed)
>>> Lan ip: 192.168.1.107
>>> tun0: linux 192.168.1.144 <-> 192.168.1.145 jnos
>>> 44.135.172.130 encap 192.168.1.107 (in route add statement) route add
>>> default tun0
>>>
>>> Axip link from #2 to #1
>>> ###################################
>>> attach axip nr1 236 44.135.160.40 ve7poo-7 #### (call added) ifconfig
>>> nr1 ipaddress 44.135.172.130 ifconfig description "nr2 to nr1"
>>> blah-blah
>>> [...]
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 20:15:30 -0800
> From: jerome schatten <romers at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] two jnos computers on same lan... correction
> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
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> Mark...
>
> Answers:
>
> 1. Heuristics... Experiential learning. For me the joy is in the
> journey not necessarily the end goal.
>
> 2. No... they can't ping each other at all.
>
> So... it's either a routing problem or the configuration of the axip
> links. As I said earlier, taken by themselves, each machine can ping the
> router; and from the root of its linux, ping either side of its tun
> interface,
>
> j.
>
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 20:47 -0500, Mark Phillips wrote:
>> 2 questions....
>>
>> 1why bother with axip on a wired network? IMHO this is a plain waste
>> of effort.
>>
>> 2 can the machines talk to each other at a lower level (eg ping)?
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2013 6:06 PM, "jerome schatten" <romers at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Small correction for Computer#2 below:
>> j.
>
>
>
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perhaps the router doesn't know where to route the packets? also I've
had to arp publish routes on the linux side to the router so the router
knows where
a particular ip is supposed to be, hi..
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