[nos-bbs] TELpac nodes and JNOS (based on a much earlier post)

[Bob Nielsen]

I recall there were even quite a few non-hams using NET/NOS without the 
AX.25 features for internet tcp/ip (email, ftp, etc.), back in the late 
1980s/early 1990s.

Bob, N7XY

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 02:29:52PM -0500, maiko at pcs.mb.ca wrote:
> 
> This is slightly old, but some recent reading about TELpac nodes
> reminded me of this thread, and I felt maybe some clarifications
> should be made. In essence, JNOS *is* a Telpac node already !
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Bill Vodall wrote:
> 
> > All this chat and some of my local on the air activity has me curious
> > to try JNOS to Winlink by the TelPack client interface. Since it uses
> > the simple SP/LM/RM commands it should be close to working.
> 
> xNOS *is* a TelPac server in a sense. The packet user out in the
> field connects to xNOS directly, and can easily and reliably send
> email to anyone in the world from the prompt - provided the NOS
> system is configured to do that, like mine is here in Winnipeg.
> 
> This was possible YEARS AGO already, before Telpac came out.
> 
> What is a bit mind boggling to me is this - Telpac nodes apparently have
> the ability to connect to an FBB or JNOS server over the internet and deliver
> the mail that way. BUT wait, the NOS servers already have the ability (for
> years) to accept DIRECT packet connections from packet users out in the
> field, and deliver the mail themselves. In which case Telpac becomes an
> extra step in between, one that is not required for those cases.
> 
> To be fair, many out there want nothing to do with NOS or linux for that
> matter, so they go the Windows route. To each their own, no big deal, no
> war needs to be waged about it. But I think it's only fair to make the
> above clarification, so that there are no misunderstandings in what
> each of the packages are capable of.
> 
> > The only trick part that might take some tweaking of the code is the
> > sending of regular Email via Winlink.  That requires the format:
> >
> >   sp smtp:wa7nwp at jnos.org
> 
> Most xNOS have built in SMTP services. Again, NOS is fully capable of
> sending email on it's own. What's the point of forwarding it over a Telpac
> client interface over the internet to a WinLink system for delivery to
> it's destination ? I can connect to my JNOS from out in the field, type
> in my email message, and JNOS itself will deliver it to the destination.
> 
> > There are two potential interfaces to Winlink here.
> 
> > AX25 to a Telpac(_node on linux) or
> 
> For those running JNOS systems, there is no need to run a Telpac
> node if all they want to do is deliver email.
> 
> > Telnet to their servers at port 12001.
> 
> I don't plan on it. I don't see the point.
> 
> > Source code is available so we might be able to put
> > telpack_node right in to NOS.
> 
> Doesn't need it. It's there already.
> 
> > telpac_node/LinuX offers no GUI or other nice features,
> > it is just a small tool used like the well known ax25-tools
> > together with ax25d.
> 
> Again it comes down to choice. You can go the ax25 tools/utils
> route, you can go the NOS route, or you can go the Windows route
> with the Telpac node software.
> 
> Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM
> 
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