[aprssig] SATgates ? (again)

Wed Jan 27 10:13:12 EST 2016

Can this be a simple text file, so that the list can be updated with a simple text editor, and without having to change the software?  Edit the file and restart; nothing fancy.

Greg KO6TH

On January 27, 2016 3:03:40 AM PST, John Wiseman via aprssig <aprssig at tapr.org> wrote:
>Ok, Bob.
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>I'm happy to add a list of calls that should be Igated if hear direct
>to the
>configuration file. 
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>Although BPQ32 is a pretty complex package a simple APRS only
>configuration
>is easy enough to create, and there are versions for both Windows and
>Linux.
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>73,
>
>John
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>From: aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>Bruninga
>via aprssig
>Sent: 26 January 2016 15:44
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] SATgates ? (again)
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>Yep, that's a problem.   So I guess we are going to need a special
>SATgate
>code.
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>No matter how we do it, it will need a list of satellite calls that
>gets
>updated when new satellies are launched.
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>That's all I am after is a dedicated black-box code that acts as these
>special satgtes.
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>The main objective is the numerous other countries which do not have an
>existing SATgate but do have a dedicated AMSAT/ARISS station for ISS
>communications.  These operators are not necessarily packet or APRS or
>internet savvy, but are dedicated to keeping their tracking stations on
>ISS.
>We want to be able to send them this SATgate code, they just hook up to
>a
>TNC and radio or soundcard and turn it on.
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>This will probably be a SATgate in the one major city in the country
>and we
>don't want it to create a blackhole for the few other Satllite
>oeprators
>there.
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>Im not asking for all IGates to support this.  I only need one that is
>easy
>to set up by non APRS folks.  Then it is the one we can write the
>system and
>procedures around.  And get a working global APRS satellite network
>that
>wors consistently everywhere.
>
>
>Bob, WB4APR
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>From: Kenneth Finnegan [mailto:kennethfinnegan2007 at gmail.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:21 AM
>To: John Wiseman; TAPR APRS Mailing List
>Cc: Robert Bruninga
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] SATgates ? (again)
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>On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:38 AM, John Wiseman via aprssig
><aprssig at tapr.org> wrote:
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>I've added a SATGate mode as described to the BPQ32 Igate code.
>
>One consequence is that packets sent directly by the satellite, rather
>than
>diigpeated through it, won't be Igated. Could this be an issue?
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>Yes. That's another big reason why so many of us are advocating against
>this
>mode even being an option.
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>--
>Kenneth Finnegan
>http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/
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>73,
>John G8BPQ
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>________________________________________
>From: aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>Bruninga
>via aprssig
>Sent: 24 January 2016 23:28
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] SATgates ? (again)
>
>
>I'm not trying to change the APRS-IS.  I'm trying to fix the satgate
>problem
>by asking any author of IGate code to include a SATgate mode that will
>ignore direct, undigipeated packets.  When any authors respond with the
>feature, then we will have a SATgate we can recommend for people to
>use.
>This is a SATgate only issue and it should not be included in
>terrestrial
>operation.  Terrestrial APRS network has a different objective.
>The people that we want to set up SATgates are Satellite folks first
>and in
>far corners of the world and we want to eliminate this obscure problem
>in
>that application by fixing it at hte SATgate..
>Bob, WB4APR'
>
>On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jason KG4WSV <kg4wsv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig
><aprssig at tapr.org> wrote:
>>... What you're describing is trying to use the APRS-IS as a local RF
>analysis tool.
>No, I'm trying to make the APRS satellites work as a useful
>constellation
>and to have their integration into the APRS-IS work in a consistent
>manner
>all over the world.
>
>It does - it treats your hypothetical "satgate" just like any other
>Igate.
>
> 
>I'm just trying to identify IGate code that has this SATgate mode so
>that we
>can know what software to recommend for SATgate use.
>
>
>There isn't any.  But that's OK, since there isn't a special version of
>APRS-IS stripped of deduplication running in your hypothetical
>"satgate"
>mode to connect them to.
>
>This is exactly the same non-problem as using APRS-IS for RF
>propagation
>analysis.  APRS-IS simply isn't designed for that, and the way it is
>designed actively prevents its use in that manner.
>
>-Jason
>kg4wsv
>
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