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</style></head><body lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple">Can this be a simple text file, so that the list can be updated with a simple text editor, and without having to change the software? Edit the file and restart; nothing fancy.<br>
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Greg KO6TH<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On January 27, 2016 3:03:40 AM PST, John Wiseman via aprssig <aprssig@tapr.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Ok, Bob.<p></p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">I'm happy to add a list of calls that
should be Igated if hear direct to the configuration file. <p></p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"><p> </p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Although BPQ32 is a pretty complex package
a simple APRS only configuration is easy enough to create, and there are
versions for both Windows and Linux.<p></p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">73,<p></p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">John<p></p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b><personname st="on">Robert Bruninga</personname>
via aprssig<br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 26 January 2016 15:44<br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <personname st="on">TAPR
APRS Mailing List</personname><br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] SATgates ?
(again)</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Yep, that’s a
problem. So I guess we are going to need a special SATgate code.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">No matter how we do
it, it will need a list of satellite calls that gets updated when new satellies
are launched.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">That’s all I
am after is a dedicated black-box code that acts as these special satgtes.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">The main objective
is the numerous other countries which do not have an existing SATgate but do
have a dedicated AMSAT/ARISS station for ISS communications. These operators
are not necessarily packet or APRS or internet savvy, but are dedicated to
keeping their tracking stations on ISS. We want to be able to send them
this SATgate code, they just hook up to a TNC and radio or soundcard and turn
it on.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">This will probably
be a SATgate in the one major city in the country and we don’t want it to
create a blackhole for the few other Satllite oeprators there.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Im not asking for
all IGates to support this. I only need one that is easy to set up by non
APRS folks. Then it is the one we can write the system and procedures
around. And get a working global APRS satellite network that wors
consistently everywhere.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
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Bob, WB4APR</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
Kenneth Finnegan [mailto:<a href="mailto:kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com">kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 26, 2016
10:21 AM<br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> John Wiseman; <personname st="on">TAPR APRS Mailing List</personname><br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <personname st="on">Robert
Bruninga</personname><br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] SATgates ?
(again)</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:38 AM, John Wiseman via
aprssig <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> wrote:<p></p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I've added a SATGate mode as described to the BPQ32
Igate code.<br />
<br />
One consequence is that packets sent directly by the satellite, rather than<br />
diigpeated through it, won't be Igated. Could this be an issue?<p></p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes. That's another big reason why so many of us are
advocating against this mode even being an option.<p></p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">--<br />
Kenneth Finnegan<br />
<a href="http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/</a><p></p></span></font></p>
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73,<br />
John G8BPQ<br />
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________________________________________<br />
From: aprssig [mailto:<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org">aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>]
On Behalf Of <personname st="on">Robert Bruninga</personname><br />
via aprssig<br />
Sent: 24 January 2016 23:28<br />
To: <personname st="on">TAPR APRS Mailing List</personname><br />
Subject: Re: [aprssig] SATgates ? (again)<p></p></span></font></p>
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I'm not trying to change the APRS-IS. I'm trying to fix the satgate
problem<br />
by asking any author of IGate code to include a SATgate mode that will<br />
ignore direct, undigipeated packets. When any authors respond with the<br />
feature, then we will have a SATgate we can recommend for people to use.<br />
This is a SATgate only issue and it should not be included in terrestrial<br />
operation. Terrestrial APRS network has a different objective.<br />
The people that we want to set up SATgates are Satellite folks first and in<br />
far corners of the world and we want to eliminate this obscure problem in<br />
that application by fixing it at hte SATgate..<br />
Bob, WB4APR'<br />
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Jason KG4WSV <<a href="mailto:kg4wsv@gmail.com">kg4wsv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br />
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:09 PM, <personname st="on">Robert Bruninga</personname>
via aprssig<br />
<<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> wrote:<br />
>... What you're describing is trying to use the APRS-IS as a local RF<br />
analysis tool.<br />
No, I'm trying to make the APRS satellites work as a useful constellation<br />
and to have their integration into the APRS-IS work in a consistent manner<br />
all over the world.<br />
<br />
It does - it treats your hypothetical "satgate" just like any other
Igate.<br />
<br />
<br />
I'm just trying to identify IGate code that has this SATgate mode so that we<br />
can know what software to recommend for SATgate use.<br />
<br />
<br />
There isn't any. But that's OK, since there isn't a special version of<br />
APRS-IS stripped of deduplication running in your hypothetical
"satgate"<br />
mode to connect them to.<br />
<br />
This is exactly the same non-problem as using APRS-IS for RF propagation<br />
analysis. APRS-IS simply isn't designed for that, and the way it is<br />
designed actively prevents its use in that manner.<br />
<br />
-Jason<br />
kg4wsv<p></p></span></font></p>
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