[aprssig] TAPR Dayton Solar Talk

KBØNLY kb0nly at mchsi.com
Sun May 29 23:42:21 EDT 2011

The ones I have don't bother me on HF at all.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Earl Needham
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:36 PM
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [aprssig] TAPR Dayton Solar Talk

Forget the mercury in CFL's, what do they do to HF SSB?  They make a BIG 
racket here!

And 10 years?  NO WAY!  They last MAYBE a month at MY house!

7 3

KD5XB -- Earl Needham http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs Quoting from the 
Coast Guard: ZUT Posted via Blackberry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga at usna.edu>
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Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:29:41
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Subject: Re: [aprssig] TAPR Dayton Solar Talk

>> If someone is really wanting to cut their carbon footprint...

> Yes, rich people like you and me and almost everybody
> on this list can do whatever we want, but does it matter?
> Much of CO2 comes from burning coal mines in Russia and
> China etc....

Huh? missinformation.  The USA consumes TEN TIMES the energy as china, and 
European(EU 27) consumes another 5 times.  And most of the USA energy comes 
form burning coal.  So blaming it on the Chinese is completely obfuscating 
the issue.

> BTW. have you ever noticed that the compact PL's are
> made of hazardous substances, and most cheap brands
> have very poor efficiency in the power supply section?

More missleading info.  The amount of mercury in a CFL is about equal to the 
amount of Mercury released into the environment from buring coal to power a 
home with incandescents per year.  But the CFL lasts 10 years!  And every 
place that sells them accepts them back for re-cycling.

"Very poor efficiency" is a meaningless subjecive term.  Yes the power 
supply in a CFL is only converting about 20% of the electricity to light, 
but that is 400% better than an incandescent wihch only produces 5% light at 
best!  Hence the 4-to-1 savings from using CFL's.

>I vote for moving this thread somewhere else.

Agree!  Come join the other hams on the SolarDIY at yahoogroups.com


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