[aprssig] APRS Stellite active! Re: FAST1 Status?

Bob Bruninga bruninga at usna.edu
Sun Dec 11 23:52:27 EST 2011


The best possible packet is the SHORTEST possible packet.

No status text, no extra path hops, no altitude...
That always gets best possible chance of getting in...

Oh, and short TXD, thought I do not know how short is too short for FAST1.  HBut 150 ms should work.  100 may not.

Bob, WB4APR


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:42:36 -0800
>From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org (on behalf of Greg Dolkas <ko6th.greg at gmail.com>)
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Stellite active! Re: FAST1 Status?  
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
>
>   "Hit hard" is a tricky thing to do.  If we're all
>   blasting it with RF, the transmitter may never key
>   up because the receiver may never decode a fully
>   formed packet.  There's a best load level, as seen
>   by the satellite, beyond which things drop off
>   rapidly.  Overloading the receiver isn't going to
>   help the command team in their battery-sucking
>   objective.
>
>   Greg  KO6TH
>
>   On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Steve Daniels
>   <steve at daniels270.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     Latest elset is
>     FAST 1
>     1 90025U 0        11344.46201349 +.00001221
>     +00000-0 +18129-3 0 00483
>     2 90025 071.9715 010.5435 0018442 309.0931
>     050.8588 14.76836683008082
>
>     The request was to hit it hard this weekend to
>     force a hard reset and the
>     batteries need to be flat to do that, as one of
>     the micro's needed it, the
>     only thing that’s happening now seems to be the
>     beacon, I did get through a
>     couple of days ago.
>
>     They team need to organize another day and let
>     more people know.
>     145.825 up 437.345 down path is FAST1
>
>     Steve Daniels
>     G6UIM
>     Torbay Freecycle Moderator
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org
>     [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf
>     Of Andrew P.
>     Sent: 11 December 2011 23:25
>     To: Bob Bruninga ; aprssig at tapr.org
>     Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Stellite active! Re:
>     FAST1 Status?
>
>     Is there an elset available for the satellite so
>     we know when it's above the
>     horizon?
>
>     Andrew, KA2DDO
>
>     Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
>     Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:51:56
>     To: <aprssig at tapr.org>
>     Subject: [aprssig] APRS Stellite active! Re: FAST1
>      Status?
>
>     I just realized that maybe the APRS sig was not
>     made aware of the FAST1
>     satellite that has been turned over for APRS
>     digipeating this weekend and
>     onward (maybe).  There is lots of emial chatter,
>     but I just noticed it is on
>     the AMSAT-BB and maybe APRSSIG people are not
>     aware of it.
>
>     Uplink is on 145.825 and downlink is on 437???. 
>     My wife has guests coming
>     in a few mintes, so I dont have time to look it up
>     and post it.  I believe
>     the digipeating callsign is FAST1. 
>
>     SO jump in!  In fact, they are actually hoping
>     that we can overload it and
>     run the batteries down so that they can get a new
>     reset for some other
>     functions.
>
>     Bob, WB4APR
>
>     ---- Original message ----
>     >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:56:08 -0800
>     >From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org (on behalf of
>     "Greg D."
>     <ko6th_greg at hotmail.com>)
>     >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FAST1  Status? 
>     >To: <w8krf at w8krf.net>,<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>     >
>     >
>     >Hi Carl,
>     >
>     >Well, same results here.  Success early in the
>     week, but nothing since.  I
>     wonder if our collective traffic has reset
>     something up there?
>     >
>     >However, on my last try (last night), I copied
>     one beacon clearly - decoded
>     and forwarded to IS - but I also heard a few other
>     weak packets by ear that
>     were not decoded.  I could tell that they were
>     not beacon packets (the long
>     string of G's is very distinctive), so either I
>     was hearing somebody
>     uplinking on the downlink, or perhaps other
>     satellite activity on 145.825.
>     >
>     >There was also a portion of the pass where the FM
>     noise would suddenly drop
>     for a second and then return a few times.  I
>     suspect that was 9600 baud
>     traffic from the satellite.  I'm not set up to
>     receive 9600 packet, but if
>     that was the case, perhaps we'll have more success
>     digipeating at 9600.  Of
>     course, that won't keep the transmitter as
>     occupied - the packets are so
>     much shorter - but it would indicate that the
>     satellite is still in active
>     digipeat mode.
>     >
>     >Greg  KO6TH
>     >
>     >
>     >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:31:54 -0500
>     >From: w8krf at w8krf.net
>     >To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>     >Subject: [amsat-bb] FAST1  Status?
>     >
>     >Has there been a change to FAST1 since Thursday?
>     During two passes on
>     >Thursday, I was able to digipeat through it using
>     AGWPE (set to 1k2),
>     >UISS, and SatPC.  I have included  a portion of
>     my log below.  Both
>     >yesterday (12/10) and this morning (12/11) I was
>     not able to digi
>     >through it although I was receiving the beacon.
>     >
>     >----------------------------------------------------------------
>     >[UISS Auto-Log date - Mode: Only Digipeated
>     Packets - 12/8/2011]
>     >----------------------------------------------------------------
>     >{snip}
>     >
>     >
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