[aprssig] DSTAR Freq in Status text?

Michael J. Wolthuis wolthui3 at msu.edu
Wed Mar 11 21:48:47 EDT 2009


What about using the Tone spaces to put DST for D-Star maybe?

ie. FFF.FFFMHz TDST or FFF.FFFMHz T d*

Note, I am not trying to send this from a D-Star radio (well that too), 
but for this status text it is from RC-710 connected to a D-Star 2820.

Mike
kb8zgl


Bob Bruninga wrote:
>> Where is the spec on this?  I haven't 
>> been able to easily locate it.  I 
>> could then answer some of my own questions. 
>>     
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> www.aprs.org/localinfo.html
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>   
>> You can send freq. information if you 
>> use Pete's DPRSInterface with D-Star 
>> and an APRS program. 
>>     
>
> Last time I looked, DPRS forces a certain format and will not allow the FFF.FFFMHz to be in the required leading 10 byte location for it to be part of the APRS Frequency Spec.  Yes, last ime I looked, DPRS can include frequency, but not in the right place to make it parseable in APRS.
>
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>> Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>     
>>>> Is there anyway I can denote that it is 
>>>> DStar and not analog in my Status text?  
>>>> ie. FFF.FFF d* or something like that?  
>>>> I would like people to know I am not on 
>>>> analog at the time when I have d* on.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Unfortunately I have been unsuccessful in encouraging the DPRS conversion to implement the FFF.FFFMHz part of the APRS format.  I do understand that D* and APRS are apples and oranges, but since the fact that the packet was originated on DSTAR is coded elsewhere in the packet, it could be easy to distinguish.
>>>
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>>>> Will other d-710s only pickup the freq if it 
>>>> has Mhz as the last 3 characters of the 10? 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Yes, that is the "spec" it must be FFF.FF?MHz with the ? being a digit or a space...
>>>
>>> My hope is that we have the best integration of D* and APRS as possible.  I do not have any DSTAR equipment, so if you have any ideas how we can better cross communicate these systems, I am all ears.  Especially in light of the Universal HAM Messaging Initiative: www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html that is attempting to make sure any ham system can text message any ham on any system from any system.
>>>
>>> Bob, WB4APR
>>>
>>> Bob Bruninga wrote: 
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>>>       
>>>>> I have my RC-d710 now talking through my Icom 
>>>>> 2820.  I was wondering, is there anyway to 
>>>>> format the Status Text transmitted to include 
>>>>> frequency you are on like a d710? 
>>>>>      
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Sure, just put FFF.FFFMHz in the status text 
>>>> of the D710.  That is the standard APRS format 
>>>> introduced in APRS1.2.  It must be the first 
>>>> 10 bytes of free-text in the position comment 
>>>> or status fields. 
>>>>
>>>> I had also proposed that the DPRS interface 
>>>> to the DSTAR system would include the frequency 
>>>> in those packets gated from DPRS into the APRS 
>>>> system, but I was unsuccessful in convincing 
>>>> the right people of the value of being 
>>>> compatible with the frequency field. 
>>>>
>>>> If that was done, then not only could we see 
>>>> the locations of DSTAR users on APRS, but we 
>>>> could also see their operating frequency for 
>>>> a return call. 
>>>>
>>>> Bob, Wb4APR 
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>>>>         
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