[aprssig] Universal APRS messaging

Steve Dimse steve at dimse.com
Sun Oct 19 21:15:49 EDT 2008

On Oct 19, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Gregory A. Carter wrote:

> By your standards of "martarism" then every APRS software developer  
> should just disable APRS Messaging altogether to protect iGate  
> owners from liability.

No, because that would not protect them. You do not need an APRS  
client, just a telnet program.

I don't think you should ban guns because they can be used for a  
crime. I do think that anyone that buys one needs to be aware of the  
consequences of owning one, especially the legal responsibility for  
actions outside your control (e.g. your 5 year old  kid gets ahold of  
it and kills his friend). I believe that everyone in the chain, from  
the gun designer to maufacture to shopowner to buyer shares  
responsibility for the safe operation of that gun.
> As stated before, you cannot send a message from OpenAPRS...

No need to be defensive, I tried to make it very clear this is not  
about OpenAPRS, I do not see any problems with your authentication  
mechanism. I just think it is wasted effort, because the all that  
effort funnels into a system that has zero security. The effort needs  
to be in the infrastructure first.
> I fail to see how the level of control we have implimented threatens  
> the remote iGate user.  I'm content with agreeing to disagree with  
> you and leaving it at that.

I wish you had read what I said "The fault is not with OpenAPRS, their  
system is as good as one can expect from a verification system. The  
problem is what follows." That is exactly what I meant. I can have the  
greatest front door, deadbolts and locks ever made, but it is not much  
use if there is no back wall to my house!

Steve K4HG

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