Bob, I kinda see your point, but it just could be that those folks with the 1200/9600 combined channel or the 70cm 9600 baud channels are showing us the way to migrate to a 9600 baud channel that will allow us to see _more_ than we do now. It could be that if APRS fragments then it's dead, but if it stops growing it's just as dead. -Jason kg4wsv