[aprssig] APRS in Louisville, KY (Jeff Kunce N0JUH)

Wed Aug 13 10:58:10 EDT 2008

There is little APRS activity in Louisville but there is a and Igate and a 
repeater there. There are a few user in Louisville. Not many.

> I'm on my 5th trip this year across mid and eastern US via I-64 (N0JUH-4
> this trip) - and again noticed the lack of APRS activity going through
> Louisville, KY.  It seems odd that a city of that size should be an APRS
> dead zone.  Is an alternate freq in use there? A local ordinance
> prohibiting APRS? :)
>
>  -- Jeff, n0juh

Sincerely,

Gary Shupp (KF4BAQ)

gs
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>   1. Re: Fuel Stops (Bob Bruninga )
>   2. Re: Weather Stations and Net Neutrality (Scott Miller)
>   3. Re: Fuel Stops (Chris Rose)
>   4. Re: [SPAM]   Fuel Stops (John Ronan) (Chris Rose)
>   5. Re: Weather Stations and Net Neutrality (Bob Bruninga )
>   6. Re: Fuel Stops (Wes Johnston, AI4PX)
>   7. No APRS in Louisville, KY (Jeff Kunce N0JUH)
>   8. Sep 2008 QST Pg 30-32.  Tell it all! (k4rjj at bellsouth.net)
>   9. Re: [SPAM]   Fuel Stops (John Ronan) (John Ronan)
>  10. Kenwood TM-D710 operation panel pinout (Lukas Reinhardt, DO7VLR)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:07:54 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga at usna.edu>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Fuel Stops
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
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>> How does one go about providing the proper
>> identity when beaconing an object such as this?
>
> ALl APRS clients are supposed to retain the call of the sending station. 
> Even the Kenwoods keep the callsign of the sending station.
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:04:53 -0700
> From: Scott Miller <scott at opentrac.org>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
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>> And this positionless Weather is the most frustrating kluge on APRS since 
>> it was first proposed in 1995!  It drives me nuts!  It violates the 
>> fundamental principles of APRS that each packet is self-contained and 
>> does not depend on aprior info to make sense.
>
> *cough*telemetry*cough*
>
> (How often do those label, units, and equations packets really get where
> they need to go along with the telemetry values?)
>
> Scott
> N1VG
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Rose <kb8uih at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Fuel Stops
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
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> U Must identify within 10 minutes of a transmission
> that doesn't initially give you call sign.  With
> packet if your main beacon doesn't identify your
> station, the status text should do it and at least at
> @10 minute intervals.
>
> Chris
> KB8UIH
>
> --- "Adam C. (gmail)" <adam.cartwright at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I'm warming up to this.  My first thought on OP
>> was "great, more SPAM"
>> because I can imagine these little gas station
>> advertisements getting digi'd
>> all over the place.  But the implementation
>> mentioned below actually makes
>> sense.
>>
>> I'm trying to get myself and others out of the
>> "tracker mentality" as well.
>> I have a question there about beaconing Objects. How
>> does one go about
>> providing the proper identity when beaconing an
>> object such as this? If
>> you're using a tactical call, should you then put
>> your call sign in the
>> status text somewhere, so as to be legal?  Sorry for
>> the noobie question,
>> but I'm still trying to get my head around the
>> "non-tracking" capabilities
>> of APRS.
>>
>> Adam Cartwright (W0AKO)
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
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>> On Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:40 PM
>> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Fuel Stops
>>
>> > Might I suggest something.
>> > Nothing says it has to be on the main APRS
>> channel.
>>
>> Now that is another great idea!  ANd since the other
>> channel would not have
>> digipeaters on it, then the temptation to SPAM
>> thousands of square miles
>> appropriate to some of the big egos would be
>> limited.
>>
>> I am wholehartedly in support of this idea.  And
>> these bacons could use tiny
>> tracking devices instead of requiring full-up APRS
>> stations, and so could be
>> set on this alternate channel to beacon every MINUTE
>> locally, simplex,
>> DIRECT.  Thus assuring that it remains local, and
>> that the channel could
>> EASILY handle hundreds of these devices.
>>
>> We would hope to find a common channel (not 144.99
>> which is reserved as an
>> alt-input channel for APRS).  SHucks, I'd suggest
>> 145.55 the old abandoned
>> SAREX channel if not already in use.
>>
>> THen a single 10 minute (local) FREQUENCY OBJECT
>> beacon on 144.39 would
>> advise travelers of this BEACON frequency whereever
>> they were.  MOnitoring
>> the channel for 1 minute should give you the local
>> info you need!
>>
>> But until we break the "tracker mentality" and get
>> everyone to realize that
>> APRS was supposed to be a local info resource for
>> display to the local and
>> mobile operator, we have a long way to go...
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Rose <kb8uih at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] [SPAM]   Fuel Stops (John Ronan)
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> HI,
> I think the idea is a great one.  I have to buy my own
> gas and even get help from a pal I pick up two or
> three days a week on my way to work.
> For vacationers and over the road guys that have to
> drive to make money and pay their own way, this is a
> good idea.
>
> Chris
> KB8UIH
>
> --- Jack Chomley <radio at irock.com.au> wrote:
>
>> At 06:17 AM 13/08/2008, Phillip wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >        This would border on commercial interests I
>> believe and if
>> > this goes ahead then you can kiss
>> >Tactical APRS goodbye.
>> >
>>
>> Yep, the thin end of the wedge..... Forget it, you
>> want to reduce
>> your fuel costs? Its easy, use less of it....I have
>> cut my costs  30%
>> by reorganising vehicle usage. ;-)
>> Sorry FWIW,  fuel price locating has no place on
>> APRS, just my .02
>> cents worth :-)
>>
>> 73s  Jack VK4JRC
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:21:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga at usna.edu>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Weather Stations and Net Neutrality
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
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>> (How often do those label, units, and equations
>> packets really get where they need to go along
>> with the telemetry values?)
>
> Got me there!
>
> But on the good side, Steve at FINDU lets you include those parameter 
> values in the URL when you request the data and so you can access the data 
> assuming you know how to ask.
>
> I guess the difference between positionless weather and positionless 
> telemetry is that we have orders of magnitude more WX stations than 
> telemetry stations. <wink>
>
> Bob
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:12:55 -0400
> From: "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <wes at ai4px.com>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Fuel Stops
> To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
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> But what happens when gas goes back to two digit numbers?  Oh wait.... 
> never
> mind.... not even if sold by the liter here.
>
> Ducking....
>
> ;-)
>
> Wes
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> We use this symbol for automatic TRAFFIC SPEED reporting (00 to 99 MPH).
>>  So three digit ($$$) signs would not be confusing to MAP viewers.
>>
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
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> Wes
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:22:19 -0500
> From: Jeff Kunce N0JUH <jefflists08 at corrt.com>
> Subject: [aprssig] No APRS in Louisville, KY
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> I'm on my 5th trip this year across mid and eastern US via I-64 (N0JUH-4
> this trip) - and again noticed the lack of APRS activity going through
> Louisville, KY.  It seems odd that a city of that size should be an APRS
> dead zone.  Is an alternate freq in use there? A local ordinance
> prohibiting APRS? :)
>
>  -- Jeff, n0juh
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:15:47 +0000
> From: k4rjj at bellsouth.net
> Subject: [aprssig] Sep 2008 QST Pg 30-32.  Tell it all!
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> Bob.  This article is a joy to read and see everything in one place. Great 
> introduction to the naysayers that still think this is about non listening 
> trackers
>
> Thanks!
> Ronny K4RJJ
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:48:40 +0100
> From: John Ronan <jronan at tssg.org>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] [SPAM]   Fuel Stops (John Ronan)
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> On 12
>>
>> THe proper query for APRSdata, was ?GAS and the response would be
>> the nearest objects with the cheapest gas in the vicinity of the
>> requester.  Or something like ?GAS-3 might respond with the 3
>> nearest objects...
>>
> Never thought of that, its even more interesting, and possibly
> simpler to do.  I'll go think about it for a bit.
>
> Regards
> John
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:04:17 +0200
> From: "Lukas Reinhardt, DO7VLR" <do7vlr at aprs-saar.de>
> Subject: [aprssig] Kenwood TM-D710 operation panel pinout
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> Hello everybody,
>
> during the Friedrichshafen HAM RADIO I bought the new Kenwood TM-D710
> which I intend to use in my car for mobile APRS operations.
> I have a Procom GPS/FM/144MHz/435MHz/GSM Antenna installed on the roof
> of the car, so there's an external GPS-Antenna with preamplifier
> available. Garmin provides competitive OEM GPS modules, I have the
> "GARMIN GPS 15H-W" which has a connector for an external antenna
> (voltage: 8 - 40 V DC, current: 50mA nominal). I was thinking about how
> to install it in the car and connect it to the TM-D710. The GPS should
> power up when I press the PWR button of my TM-D710 and power down when
> the TM-D710 is switched off. That is the goal ;-)
>
> On the Internet I found a very nice solution from Green Light Labs, the
> "GPS-710" (http://www.greenlightlabs.com/gps-710/).
> I would buy it immediately if I had not bought the GARMIN some month ago
> OR if it had a connector for an external antenna ;-)
>
> The GPS-710 gets the power out of the operation panel cable. So my
> question is, does anybody on the list know the exact pinout of the
> operation panel connector on the TRX unit? Then I would connect my
> GARMIN GPS the same way like the GPS-710.
> The MIC connector has a pin with 8V DC but it only provides 100mA and
> I'm not shure if this is enough, because the microphone has leds
> included...The GPS would take 50-60mA.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help!
>
>
> vy 73 de Lukas, DO7VLR
>
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