[aprssig] Re: metrics
KA8VIT
ka8vit at ka8vit.com
Sat Sep 8 10:29:17 EDT 2007
Interesting.
Steve Dimse wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Mark Fellhauer wrote:
>
>> A circle has 360 degrees because a year is 13 Lunar periods of 28 days.
>
> The moonth (not a misspelling, that is the origin of month) is 29.53
> days when viewed from the earth, and 27.322 days when viewed from a
> fixed point in space. The difference is the earth moves along its
> orbit, so the moon has to rotate further for us to see the same phase.
> Note that NEITHER is 28 days. Using the actual lunar rotation time of
> 27.322, 13 periods is just over 355 days. Twelve earth-apparent moon
> rotations gets you to a nearby value a bit over 354 days. The moon has
> rotated thirteen times, the earth going once around its orbit makes
> the moon do the extra turn not visible from our vantage point. Humans,
> in their usual self-centered manner, choose to define a moonth on
> their perception, rather than the moon's perspective.
>
> The truth behind 360 is, again, more fascinating to me than the myth.
> The Babylonians began a number of long-lived non-decimal systems,
> which included the number of minutes in an hour, hours in a day, and
> degrees in a circle. The reason was they never developed fractional
> arithmetic. Instead, to make their life easier they used "magic
> numbers", numbers which were evenly divisible by as many factors as
> possible.
>
> 24 is evenly divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, and 24.
>
> 60 is evenly divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 20, 30, and 60.
>
> 360 is left as an exercise for the reader, suffice it to say it is 60
> * 6, so it has all the factors of 60 and then some.
>
> Some scholars believe the Babylonians chose 360 as the magic number to
> use because it was close to the number of days in a year, which is
> independent of the lunar cycle. Others believe it was chosen because
> it was closest to their ability to sub-divide a circle. I've never
> read a source that equated it to the lunar cycle, but we do not know
> for sure, and if you want to say they rounded up from TWELVE lunar
> cycles I have no basis to argue. But it is indisputably the
> Babylonians and not the Greeks that broke the circle into 360 degrees,
> and the reason for that number was their inability to do any
> fractional math. And if you want to equate it to the lunar cycle, it
> has to be twelve, because they did not know the earth orbited the sun.
>
> Sorry for prolonging the off-topic thread, but I really hate it when
> people perpetuate erroneous information. Repeat after me, bad data is
> worse than no data at all!
>
> Steve K4HG
>
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