[aprssig] Smart beaconing and the tragedy of the commons

[William McKeehan]

Ahhh....there is no one answer to this questions, that's why they have
adjustments, just like the fixed rate in the Kenwoods (and most APRS software
that I've seen). Different people have different needs, thus different
settings.

Personally, I think for every day driving a valid setup is as follows:
Fast Speed      60 MPH
Fast Rate      180 seconds
Slow Speed       5 MPH
Slow Rate     1800 seconds
Min Turn Time   60 seconds
Min Turn Angle  30 degrees

That's one beacon every 3 miles unless you make a turn.
-- 
William
KI4HDU

On Wed, May 23, 2007 9:34 pm, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> William,
>
> Thanks,
> Please, tell us what you think that should be.  I really do want
> us to come to a group consensus, and so we need to see some
> numbers to make this discussion possible.
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William McKeehan [mailto:mckeehan at mckeehan.homeip.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:10 PM
>> To: bruninga at usna.edu; TAPR APRS Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Smart beaconing and the tragedy of the
> commons
>>
>> I would suggest that people using a reasonable "Min Turn
>> Time" (specific to
>> the TinyTrack3 terminology i.e., the amount of time that must
>> have past
>> between beacons before a turn will trigger a beacon) these
>> problems could be
>> eliminated and still give a reasonable route.
>> --
>> William McKeehan
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2007 4:02 pm, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> >> ...I for one am a little bit irritated that you
>> >> repeatedly blast SmartBeaconing while
>> >> having no experience with it.
>> >
>> > I have plenty of experience with it.  Most any day,  most
> any
>> > time.  All I have to do in my APRS is hit the SORT by LOAD
>> > button and see who is hitting out 99 beacons per hour (the
> max I
>> > capture), and it invariably is people running smart
> beaconing.
>> >
>> > Yes, -those- users are very happy with smart-beaconing,
> since
>> > every single stop, start, turn and run is precisely
> documented
>> > as they run around town or commute.  I am sure they are very
>> > pleased with smart beaconing.  But it is at the expense of
>> > everyone else.
>> >
>> > To me, NUMBER ONE in APRS is the network, and sharing it
>> > equitibly among all users and getting consistent results.
> In
>> > most areas, we simply cannot afford to have every corner
> pegged
>> > for every user!  If people want nice tracks, then they
> should
>> > record their own GPS data and play it back on their own PC.
> Not
>> > try to do this on a single 1200 baud channel trying to be
> shared
>> > by 100 other users.
>> >
>> > Again, I ask everyone to please step back, and read the
> "tragedy
>> > of the commons" (on the fix14439 page).  Place the equitable
>> > sharing of the network formost in your mind and lets work
>> > together to come up with some smart beaconing settings that
> are
>> > equitable, under all conditions.  (since the number one
> problem
>> > is set-and-forget human nature)...
>> >
>> > If we can come  up with a smart beaconing algorithm that is
> best
>> > for the network and fails-safe, then I am happy to support
> it.
>> >
>> > Bob, WB4APR
>> >
>> >
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