[aprssig] NEW WIDEn-N what to do with this??

(SV2AGW)George Rossopoulos sv2agw at raag.org
Mon May 23 11:41:34 EDT 2005


First of all the packet was NOT from SV2BNL Sv2BNL is a digi. In purpose I
hide the sender callsign....
Anyway In my opinion the Packet must digipeated as DIGICALL,QRT* just to
indicate that the original path need to be changed.
This means that a digi must examine the whole path list, not just the
position that must digipeat, and decide accordingly.
As this packet is, the "new WIDEn-N paradigm" just ignores the packet. The
user will never know. But if a couple or more digi degipeate it as QRT then
soon or later will search why this happens and of course he will understand
what his station path should be.
If I am wrong please correct me.
I will release a new version "AGWUIDigi"


micro USB TNT (A pocket TNC with Build in Tracker and APRS digi with USB and
battery for portable operation)

(SV2AGW)George Rossopoulos
sv2agw at elcom.gr
George Rossopoulos
Nikanoros 59
-----Original Message-----
From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org]
On Behalf Of Brad [VE3BSM]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:24 PM
To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [aprssig] NEW WIDEn-N what to do with this??

When I read stuff like this about obviously under-educated APRS users (I
prefer to believe that over deliberate abuse), I wonder if perhaps we can
use some of the server-based systems like FindU to assist with the
For example, if a user like SV2BNL looked up his/her callsign on FindU and
was greeting *not* with the normal position reporting screen but rather a
page that said "Callsign delisted due to PATH abuse, click <here> for more
information.",  that might assist the errant user in making the right
I realize this won't help with HF gating issues, or local RF traffic. Heck,
it might not even be technically feasible without a lot of effort by the
keepers of the servers. But if it were, I wonder if it'd help in the long


-----Original Message-----
From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org]
On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:38 AM
To: sv2agw at elcom.gr; aprssig at lists.tapr.org; sv2agw at raag.org
Subject: Re: [aprssig] NEW WIDEn-N what to do with this??

It should send a poison pill!

>>> sv2agw at raag.org 5/22/2005 3:25:39 PM >>>
>What a digi should do with this?

This is the height of ignorance or stupidity or arrogance.
This single packet could theoretically tie up the HF channel for over 10
minutes for EACH packet!!!!!

GIven that a 7-7 packet can generate almost 200 copies on VHF, and then
everyone of those can get GATED to HF at 3 seconds per packet.

Going back to my first writings on HF, the rule is that NO ONE ON VHF should
ever be gating to HF.  Leave HF for HF users who have no other path into the
APRS system.

de WB4APR, Bob

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