[aprssig] IGate test needed

[Spider]

From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
To: <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>; <spider at rivcom.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [aprssig] IGate test needed


>>>> spider at rivcom.net 01/29/05 11:42 AM >>>
>>I can tell you that UI-View will gate this without any problem.
>>It is a non-issue with UI-View.

>
> Though the D7 only has the first 3 lines and does not
> display that callsign at the bottom.    This display
> gives the mobile oberator everything he needs to know
> to establish a voice QSO with any other active APRS
> station

We should have called it the D700-IS! ;)


>> 90% of the Igates are not going to gate these objects.
>
> Lets wait and see.  I think the marriage of the local
> situational awareness of APRS is a perfect application
> for this.

Maybe, but they are considered pretty much self serving objects.  Think 
about why we are here as hams.  Are we here to serve ourselves or are we 
here as a public service?  Objects such as the WL2K that we worked on and 
are doing and the IRLP stuff only benefits ourselves as hams and really has 
no value as a public service.....of which we are suppose to be providing.

 I like Objects and such (FireNet, duh!).  I think "Intellegence gathering" 
is the most important thing APRS can do for us to help provide data to an 
incident command, etc., ...and I am talking effective information management 
that would enchance management and response by helping to ensure that 
decisionmaking is better informed....resource tracking, sensor data 
collection, etc.  I suppose the IRLP objects could fall under resource 
tracking, but really add nothing to a intelligent data display for incident 
management or an EOC, etc..  I have a Burger King database and can squirt 
out all the locations of Burger Kings in the USA, but it really adds no 
value to the intelligent data display.....unless of course I feel like 
eating!  The point being, there is not much difference.

So I suppose you have to ask yourself....what "value" are you bringing to 
the table with is new data?  Does it enhance intellegence gathering...does 
it provide
a public service other than to Joe Blow ham radio operator.

Just a different point of view!


73  Jim











 And I think IRLP and EchoLink are a lot of the
> future of HamRadio.  I think eventually all IGates will
> be doing it.  If we can just get them to do it right.
> LOCAL ONLY.
>
>>I will be totally surprised that with will be acceptable on
>>the APRS-IS.  You will have a handful of folks that will
>>whine like stuck pigs that they do not want this stuff on
>> the APRS-IS. Good Luck!
>
> Then I think they are being short sighted and not
> fully understanding the ever increasing integration of
> Ham Radio with the FREE global connectivity of the
> Internet.  Hams use what is free and what is available
> and despite the  moans of purists, it really keeps the
> Ham Radio hobby moving and interesting...
>
> I predict that using APRS to help with the end-to-end
> voice links between APRS operators using IRLP and
> EchoLink will be a fantastic success..
>
> WB4APR,
> Bob
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, WA6OFT
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
> To: <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:53 AM
> Subject: [aprssig] IGate test needed
>
>
>> We need someone to test the IRLP to RF objects to see
>> if they can be decoded on various APRS clients *over-the-
>> air*.  The reason is, because they are all being injected into
>> the APRS-IS with 7 character callsigns such as STN4090:
>> Here is the raw packet as seen on FINDU:
>>
>>
> STN4090>APRS,qAO,IRLPGW:!4233.15NI07608.55W0PHG8760.442.850Mhz+71.9IDLE______kb2faf
>>
>> notice that this is not an OBJECT format, but a standard
>> position report.  But it has a 7 character call in the AX.25
>> pseudo header.  When this is sent back out over the air,
>> in 3rd party format, it may or may not be decoded by all
>> APRS clients.  We need to find out if any clients have
>> problems.. especially the mobiles
>>
>> You can use FINDU to find all the IRLP nodes that are
>> injecting their status into the APRS-IS...
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/symbol.cgi?icon=I0&limit=200
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
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