[aprssig] WIDEs

Robbie - WA9INF mwrobertson at comcast.net
Wed Jan 5 19:30:51 EST 2005


Bob et all,

I forgot what prompted that response, :-) sorry.. The WIDEs were PING 
PONGing, documented it think, and then the big drive to do away with WIDEs..

Robbie - WA9INF wrote:

> Bob et all,
> 
> What happen a several months back with one hell of a long thread on why 
> we have to get rid of WIDEs when using KPC3+ and not using callsign 
> substitution and all?? Wasn't that the first start of the WIDEn-N drive 
> and getting rid of WIDEs?
> 
> You guys get the average user out here so screwed up no wonder nothing 
> is running right.. It is contradiction after contradiction. I have 
> started using the delete key more and more because of this on and on 
> confusion.
> 
> Robbie
> 
> Curt, WE7U wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Curt, you dont understand callsign-substitution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, it's not the callsign-substitution that is fuzzy here,
>> it's what the digi does with the "digipeated" bits and the
>> already-digipeated/substituted callsigns.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Once a digi's own call shows up anywhere in the path,
>>> it will not ever digipeat that packet again.  Period.
>>> Thus, it will not ping-pong.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm glad of that, but I didn't think that was the case.  As I
>> understood it they ignored all but the first digipeater slot that
>> didn't have the has-been-digipeated bit set.  In other words they
>> never did a compare between any of those fields and the callsign of
>> the digi.
>>
>>
>>
>>> But it will digi other copies that went via other
>>> digis before it got to it.  Yes, those are dupes, but
>>> the only radiate outward.  They cannot come back
>>> through this digi in "ping-pong" fashion.  Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe I've seen it happen recently.  I think it was a kpc3 or
>> kpc-3+ that did it.  I might be able to check through my logs at
>> home to find an example of it on local RF.
>>
>> -- 
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