<div dir="ltr">Hi Bob,<div><br></div><div> As Tom K3IO knows, of course, this technique is a staple of radio astronomy applications for decades now. For a while, it was driven by the fact that ADCs (Sigma/Delta, whatever architecture) were not that linear at low bit counts but were much better at high bit counts. So you traded a bit less bandwidth (that occupied by the out-of-information-band tone) for much better quantization / Van Vleck noise. It could be useful as you say here.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div>Phil W1PJE</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:38 AM McGwier, Bob <<a href="mailto:rwmcgwi@vt.edu">rwmcgwi@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sorry, I forgot this. The trick I was taught early on by Tom Clark, K3IO and now used in Kerberos SDR is the introduction of wideband noise at a low level into the front end.
This noise allows one to maintain some level of phase synchrony and certain more than enough, IMO, for HF measurements. In fact, Tom convinced me that in many cases you can allow the noise to ride along with the signal and it makes very little difference
to the measurements of the signal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Tom introduced a pulse train which produced a comb of coherent tones. But a noise generator based on some simple circuit like that sold by Elecraft and spread by a “corporate
feed in reverse” to near the connectors on your multiple channel radio.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</b><span style="color:black">"McGwier, Bob" <<a href="mailto:rwmcgwi@vt.edu" target="_blank">rwmcgwi@vt.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, July 24, 2020 at 8:28 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>TAPR TangerineSDR Modular Software Defined Radio <<a href="mailto:tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I disagree on NOT wanted a sky noise limited system, especially with the small antenna. This will allow regular hams to put up < 10w EIRP systems
that emit in the ham bands and see the ionospheric returns. We know this because the fantastic work done by Dr. Greg Earle’s and my students around the eclipse led to a PhD and three Masters degrees. Along with the Tangerine SDR, and possibly other SDR
instruments, this will lead to inexpensive major advance in deploying ionospheric mapping tools.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You and I need to do some propagation work between McGwier Antenna Farm near Auburn and the stuff to be deployed at Kentland and your home or even
the ham station or satellite station.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Great talk Zach and this work might be submitted to TAPR for kitting and distribution.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So glad you are working on your doctorate. I am very proud of you.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of "Leffke, Zachary" <<a href="mailto:zleffke@vt.edu" target="_blank">zleffke@vt.edu</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:30 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>TAPR TangerineSDR Modular Software Defined Radio <<a href="mailto:tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [HamSCI] Re: HamSCI Telecon this Week</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I really like this idea (and the WSPR TX one that is underway). One area of interest to me is the ‘data exfil’ problem if running a receiver.
Of course there is Iridium and their SMS services, used a lot for things like larger high altitude balloons, the MIST magnetometers at the south pole (and elsewhere) and tons of other Machine to Machine (M2M) applications…but the nerdy Ham in me wants an Amateur
Radio solution.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">My knee jerk desire/thought is a ham radio smallsat (cubesat) for store and forward services. Might be able to get higher data rates
than the Iridium service, but obviously lose the coverage they offer, so net ‘throughput’ and delays/time lag would be an issue (waiting for the orbit to line up, first with the buoy for uplink, then with the command GS for downlink). Also, getting such a
system built and launched is no small task (probably obvious). I mention all this as it might make for a fun mission analysis style project for interested AOE/ECE students (the O means ocean hihi, and the Aerospace students could work the orbits, with the
ECEs working the comm analysis)……and as far as getting it built and launched, its not impossible for educational cubesats to get funding / CSLI slots (particularly if the store and forward payload is in addition to other science objectives/payloads).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I wonder if QO-100 might be able to provide some type of capability on this front (Amateur GEO bird, roughly covering ITU Region 1, maybe
a little of region 3). Not sure of the footprint….its over the equator obviously, but not sure what the antenna pattern coverage is and if its focused more on land masses and how much ocean it covers (particularly in the southern hemisphere). But it might
cover a decent amount of the Indian Ocean and Eastern/Southern Atlantic. Imagine a relay from ocean buoy to QO-100 to a station with the right equipment in ITU Region 1, to forward the collected data on to the ground network. Building a 2.4 GHz transmitter
for the uplink that works reliably in the ‘high seas’ sounds like a pretty tough challenge…..then there’s the regulator aspect for remote control of the TX per part 97 rules…..also, I’m probably not the first to think of this…especially if Phil, KA9Q is involved…..…but
it might be feasible and a fun project (yet another reason to get a GEO bird over Region 2….and Region 3….).
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">And while typing this, and letting my mind wander……now I have visions of buoy to cubesat to QO-100 to expand the coverage, both in ‘real
time’ and as store and forward system…..that might actually be ‘easier’ in the sense that the buoy antenna wouldn’t need to be as stable if the link can be closed with omnis (perhaps at a different band than 2.4 GHz…..like a UHF or L-Band uplink to the cubesat
and then the cubesat to AO-100 at 2.4 GHz, then QO-100 to Region 1 GS at 10 GHz. All that assumes that the cubesat has good attitude control for pointing at QO-100….</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I’m probably thinking up solutions to problems that don’t exist……but hey experimenting is fun, and its after 6pm……(and its good fodder
for student projects).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">P.S. Nathaniel, I’m about to send you the link to access the PDF for my talk for the HamSCI page (with typos/errors corrected). Thanks
again to all for the time/attention!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ward Silver<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 5:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> hamsci <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> TAPR TangerineSDR Modular Software Defined Radio <<a href="mailto:tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamSCI] Re: HamSCI Telecon this Week</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1in">Turns out my understanding of the KA9Q-assisted floating platform was backwards - it's a WSPR transmitter, not a receiver. (See <a href="http://www.arrl.org/news/high-school-marine-buoy-transmitter-now-active-on-20-meter-wspr" target="_blank">http://www.arrl.org/news/high-school-marine-buoy-transmitter-now-active-on-20-meter-wspr</a>)
Phil and I talked about a floating receiver in passing and I got the two projects mixed up. At any rate, the WSPR buoy is a good thing. Maybe a floating receiver is not so far-fetched.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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Great talks today from Ward N0AX and Zach KJ4QLP!<u></u><u></u></p>
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Here is the Zoom recording: <a href="https://scranton.zoom.us/rec/share/z-FXc7X60DtOAaeSuW6HaoUdMcPaeaa8hHAX_qYEnh1Bgo3oMRuC9jPT-zsV_m3a" target="_blank">
https://scranton.zoom.us/rec/share/z-FXc7X60DtOAaeSuW6HaoUdMcPaeaa8hHAX_qYEnh1Bgo3oMRuC9jPT-zsV_m3a</a>
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73 de Nathaniel W2NAF<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dr. Nathaniel A. Frissell Ph.D.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [HamSCI] Re: HamSCI Telecon this Week<u></u><u></u></p>
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Thanks, Ben! We look forward to seeing you!<u></u><u></u></p>
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And this also serves as the friendly reminder to everyone that we are meeting today 1900z / 3 PM Eastern. Here is the zoom link:
<span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://zoom.us/j/286316405&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw2OnI5H71OLLdu2hNNXq6EO" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(26,115,232);letter-spacing:0.15pt;background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial">https://zoom.us/j/286316405</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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73 de Nathaniel<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>pa5bw.ben<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> HamSCI <<a href="mailto:hamsci@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">hamsci@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [HamSCI] Re: HamSCI Telecon this Week<u></u><u></u></p>
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I'm very interested in both items, will be there!<u></u><u></u></p>
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(But maybe only the first hour)<u></u><u></u></p>
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Ben PE5B<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 04:07:09 UTC+2, Dr. Nathaniel A. Frissell Ph.D. wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Hi everyone,<br>
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Please join us this Thursday, July 23nd at 1900z / 3 PM Eastern for our bi-weekly HamSCI telecon. This week we have two speakers:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Ward Silver N0AX will be giving us an update on the new RBN receivers funded by the Yasme foundation.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Zach Leffke KJ4QLP (Virginia Tech) will present on his crossed dipole active antenna design for HF (based on the LWA active balun design). He is hoping that his presentation of his RF measurements might help provide a strawman for the
defining requirements for the PSWS project. Zach is also looking for ideas and constructive criticism.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Department of Physics and Electrical Engineering<br>
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