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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tom – or anyone else who can answer…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I have a question regarding the Red Pitaya. I have code working as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;font-weight:normal">Using Pavel’s code</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> – start
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SDR transceiver compatible with HPSDR</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Now I run my c program on the XU4. It does discovery and finds the Red Pitaya.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Send a START to the Red Pitaya, and it begins sending samples via UDP packets. The start is the ultra-simple Metis command consisting of:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I am able to convert these samples to floating point and save them in Digital-rf (HDF5),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">QUESTION: What is the default sample rate and center frequency ? So far, I have not sent the Red Pitaya a control command with these data, but it works anyway.
I would think/guess that the Red Pitaya is using a 48 ksps sample rate, but what is its default frequency? I have looked thru all the docs I can find, including the FPGA programming, but have not found that. ??? -73- Bill, AB4EJ<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> TangerineSDR <tangerinesdr-bounces@lists.tapr.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Engelke, Bill via TangerineSDR<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom McDermott <tom.n5eg@gmail.com>; TAPR TangerineSDR Modular Software Defined Radio <tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Engelke, Bill <bill.engelke@ua.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TangerineSDR] Functional Specification v 0.3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tom – let’s talk more about the throughput issue. As I mentioned before, I am working right now on a way to do some benchmarking to start gauging what is possible.
I have a related question for you:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">On your quad core I7, have you narrowed down where the bottleneck is? There have been some discussions that a rotating hard drive might not be able
to keep up with the data rate, no matter what format is used. (Something else I am going to test). It is quite possible that the compute time to put the data out as HDF5 might be the smaller part of the time budget, and disk writing the larger.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">At today’s prices, a 2 TB or 4 TB SSD is a budget buster, but this might not be the case in 2024.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Any thoughts?</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> I am building a crude prototype to see if I can save
multiple channels off a Red Pitaya using HDF5 (Digital RF actually, but it uses HDF5), and compare throughput using both spinning drive on USB3 and SSD. -73- Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Tom McDermott <<a href="mailto:tom.n5eg@gmail.com">tom.n5eg@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TAPR TangerineSDR Modular Software Defined Radio <<a href="mailto:tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org">tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Scotty Cowling <<a href="mailto:scotty@tonks.com">scotty@tonks.com</a>>; Engelke, Bill <<a href="mailto:bill.engelke@ua.edu">bill.engelke@ua.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TangerineSDR] Functional Specification v 0.3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Bill - thanks for iterating the specification. Here are a few comments on 0.3:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">General Requirements - Assumptions and Dependencies:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. The HD may be able to be reduced to 2TB if the 20GE snapshot<br>
can be made while recording to the ring buffer. 2T SSD drives<br>
are coming down in price faster than 4T.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am skeptical that a SBC-based host can run HDF5 and keep up<br>
with the received data. My quad Core I7-3740 3.4 GHz can not <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">keep up with 4 x 192k from one antenna (one fourth the DE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">requested throughput). It may be better to run HDF5 only on the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">snapshot that is uploaded to the Central Server. That way it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">doesn't have to run at real-time speed, it only needs to code a small<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">subset of the data and can run at a much slower rate paced by how<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">fast the upload link is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Data format. The DE will downconvert and decimate the received
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samples. This will produce 24 bit I and 24 bit Q samples, probably 2's<br>
complement binary. These will need to be converted to single<br>
precision floating point I and floating point Q prior to HDF5 encoding.<o:p></o:p></p>
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-- Tom, N5EG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:40 PM Engelke, Bill via TangerineSDR <<a href="mailto:tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org">tangerinesdr@lists.tapr.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Scotty - Please see attached, updated to include some of the things discussed at Dayton. Next I will work on the Functional Specifications for the Central Control & Database system.<o:p></o:p></p>
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