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<p>Let me clarify. Not worried about using pat, but wondering if
the Linux version of VARA would also work with JNOS. I don't have
a windows machine except when I temporarily launch it on
VirtualBox to run Winlink. Pat works really nicely with VARA in
linux. I can pull my winlink mail almost every day from my house
in SoCal to the bay area. Would be a nice link to move traffic in
a disaster with JNOS.<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chris KQ6UP<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/10/21 6:28 AM, M Langelaar wrote:<br>
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<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I had to look it up, -> pat (winlink client written in GO)
...</p>
<p>I'm not sure to be honest, my goal right now is just to get
JNOS to JNOS link<br>
functioning. The way I have written my interface 'so far' is
that it behaves more<br>
like a bridge between the two systems, over which you can
connect ax25 or ip<br>
or netrom or whatever (like a tunnel) and it's bidirectional in
that way.</p>
I'm not sure how the winlink systems are using VARA, watching the
traces on<br>
a few exchanges it looks like they are using VARA just like a
forwarding session<br>
as in a direct connection to a mailbox, but that's just what it
'looks like' to me.
<p>I'm stuck on a few annoying protocol issues, otherwise it would
be done already,<br>
and of course these little items always take the longest to sort
out ... sigh ...</p>
<p>Maiko / VE4KLM<br>
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<div dir="auto">I am using VARA with pat on Linux. Will that
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at
1:59 PM M Langelaar <<a
href="mailto:maiko@pcsinternet.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">maiko@pcsinternet.ca</a>>
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Bruce,<br>
<br>
GRAPENOS, yup, I think BK told me about that one (I think)
...<br>
<br>
Oh wow, so I should grovel at your feet HI HI, you would
have<br>
worked with Brian Kantor then correct ? He mentioned some
of<br>
the old WA4DSY days when I last chatted with him ...<br>
<br>
SO, here's a 'secret' for anyone that wants to 'play' ***<br>
<br>
IF you rsync the latest JNOS area on my official site, add
:<br>
<br>
#define EA5HVK_VARA<br>
<br>
to your config.h, then on each JNOS you can start comms to<br>
their respective VARA HF windows modems something like :<br>
<br>
JNOS A (on the cloud, accesses my VARA on client PC at
home)<br>
<br>
attach vara vara0 256 10.8.10.21 8300<br>
<br>
watch the JNOS log for stats, when both ports are
connected, run :<br>
<br>
varacmd "MYCALL VE4KLM"<br>
<br>
varamcd "LISTEN ON"<br>
<br>
JNOS B (on another subnet here at home)<br>
<br>
attach vara vara0 256 192.168.100.102 8300<br>
<br>
watch the JNOS log for stats, when both ports are
connected, run :<br>
<br>
varacmd "MYCALL K4TQL"<br>
<br>
varacmd "LISTEN ON"<br>
<br>
THEN on one of the JNOS instances, try this :<br>
<br>
varacmd "CONNECT VE4KLM K4TQL"<br>
<br>
The two VARA modems should sync up and connect, THEN at<br>
that point you can even try this on either (?) JNOS
console :<br>
<br>
c vara0 ve4klm<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
c vara0 k4tql<br>
<br>
depending which JNOS you are on.<br>
<br>
That's the latest progress I have made, you will find
however the<br>
the ax25 connection I am trying to make stalls at some
point, and<br>
that is where I need to work on the buffering and flow
control, etc.<br>
<br>
Each Windows PC is line-in / speaker out to the other
using a couple<br>
of stereo cables, since at this point it's hard and really
no point to try<br>
it on an HF frequency when you have nobody to play with
anyways.<br>
<br>
HOWEVER to me this is great progress, the mechanics are in
place.<br>
<br>
Sorry for the length of this post, but now folks have
something to maybe<br>
fool around with. The VARA modem I used is of course trial
version, so<br>
the link speed probably is not helpful in fully testing
it, but at some <br>
point<br>
I am sure I will pay Jose the fee and get the full
version. It's pretty <br>
cool !<br>
<br>
I don't use WINE since I'm spoiled to have work computers
with<br>
fully licensed Windows systems (of any kind) at my
disposal, so<br>
it's no impact to run the extra program on them, and with
VPNs<br>
and other creative routing, it doesn't matter where my
JNOS is<br>
running as long as I have a network to my software modems.<br>
<br>
It's been like that from 'day one', I tried WINE when it
first came<br>
out, but I was more interested in Virtual BOX and KVM, and
Xen<br>
and all that, and by then I working as an IT guy in
corporations<br>
that could afford windows licenses and such ...<br>
<br>
Dare I say, but BPQ seems to have a grasp on things, it's
been<br>
out for a while I think, and seems quite stable and well
in use.<br>
<br>
Yes, internet killed the radio star, but the internet is
still good for<br>
lots of stuff, like getting software out to the masses of
course.<br>
<br>
I've just been fearing lately that JNOS is turning into
just another<br>
internet app, perhaps why I've become obsessed with the
software<br>
based IP connected modems over the past years.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 09/01/2021 2:30 p.m., Bruce Nebergall K4TQL wrote:<br>
> Maiko,<br>
><br>
> VARA HF iface for JNOS 2.0<br>
><br>
><br>
> Here's another Re:<br>
><br>
> I got VARA running under Linux Wine. Actually I used
Crossover Linux <br>
> because it's easier to<br>
> set up test bottles for different applications. With
a Terabyte <br>
> drive, I don't worry about<br>
> disk space.<br>
><br>
> As I said, I got it working basically under Wine 32
bit Windows 7 <br>
> bottle. Now I've got to<br>
> figure out what I did right so I can duplicate it.
Task underway. I <br>
> use VARA as part of<br>
> an Air Force MARS message network. Right now we are
using BPQ but I'm <br>
> looking for a better<br>
> matched software that works under Linux.<br>
><br>
> I'm an old hand at NOS. I and some others ported NOS
to support <br>
> WA4DSY's high speed RF<br>
> modem. Worked like a charm. Internet killed the
network. The port <br>
> was called GRAPESNOS.<br>
> You may have heard of it.<br>
><br>
> I've looked at the source code to see if I could port
it into <br>
> something more fitting to<br>
> AF MARS use that BPQ. But, man, the code has changed
worlds from what <br>
> I knew. I'd have<br>
> a lot of catching up to do. Don't know if this old
(now) brain can do <br>
> it.<br>
><br>
> I'll keep you advised as to my progress on VARA..<br>
><br>
> BTW, any reason why you dno't do Wine?<br>
><br>
> Bruce, K4TQL<br>
><br>
> On 1/9/21 3:07 PM, M Langelaar wrote:<br>
>> Hi Bruce,<br>
>><br>
>> The modem is Windows, communications is TCP/IP,
one command port, one <br>
>> data port.<br>
>><br>
>> Jose' webpage is -> <a
href="https://rosmodem.wordpress.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://rosmodem.wordpress.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> At this time my tests are hardwired between 2
Windows PCs, each has it's<br>
>> own JNOS instance on the network using it. That's
all I have to work <br>
>> with, it<br>
>> is a good enough setup to confirm that I got the
mechanics working <br>
>> nicely.<br>
>><br>
>> It's the flow control and a few other issues that
I'm going to need a <br>
>> bit of<br>
>> time to work on, there are some protocol issues
that I need to nail <br>
>> down.<br>
>><br>
>> For what it's worth, I got confirmation from yet
another person this <br>
>> morning<br>
>> saying the WinRPR interface recently added to
JNOS 2.0 is working quite<br>
>> well, even comparable to their old TNC setups, so
that's very <br>
>> encouraging.<br>
>><br>
>> I don't use WINE, sorry.<br>
>><br>
>> Maiko / VE4KLM<br>
>><br>
>> On 09/01/2021 1:57 p.m., Bruce Nebergall K4TQL
wrote:<br>
>>> Maiko,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Good news about the VARA port. What platform
is the VARA modem <br>
>>> running on?<br>
>>> Windows? On Linux under Wine? How do you
communicate between the <br>
>>> modem<br>
>>> and JNOS? Hardwire from one PC to another?
If running under Linux Wine<br>
>>> have you had any issues with JNOS connecting
to VARA?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bruce<br>
>>><br>
><br>
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