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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Bob.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So, if I read what you’re saying correctly, then the answers to my three topics are:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1) no flood – you forward anyway (“I will forward all the bulletins I receive”)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>2) topic-based vs. flood-based – you sort and forward based on the flood only<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>3) @local flood – you don’t use it (“I will forward all the bulletins I receive”)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Is that right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2014 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] Bulletin flood handling<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>I just sort them based on area @area ww (world), eu, vk, etc. only and don't sort them based on the topic as topics change all the time.<br>I will forward all the bulletins I receive. <br><br>Sorting based on topics is too much work for ax25 bulletins I think.<br><br>Bob VE3TOK<br><br><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 14-08-08 12:27 PM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’d like to get some clarification from the broader group on the generally accepted/expected way to handle bulletin floods. I guess this is a broader topic than just for NOS, but I’m constrained by the capabilities/limitations of JNOS so I’d like to know what other JNOS users do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’m looking for feedback on a few key points:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>1) no flood<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’ve been told that a bulletin addressed to “topic” (no @flood) should remain local on the machine and not be flooded to forwarding partners. I’ve even received snarky emails from other sysops when I forward a bulletin that did not have a flood in the address. However, the rewrite files from others I’ve see routinely have rules such as:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>atv* atv<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>or <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>wx* wx<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>That is, no distinguishing between atv*@* and atv*. Everything gets put into the atv mailbox/area. Then the forward.bbs files from those same sysops forward those areas to partners. This means that all bulletins, with or without a flood are sent to forwarding partners. And, if everyone does that, then no flood is essentially the same as @ww.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Question: Do most people separate how they handle topic* from topic*@*? If yes, how? If no, then do you just flood everything?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>2) topic-based vs. flood-based rewrites<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Most of the rewrite files I’ve seen start with a list of topics that the sysop wants to group into areas. This makes it easier for the reader to find something of interest. Example:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>ibm* comp<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>linux* comp<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>mac* comp<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Then, anything else that’s not listed above gets lumped into flood-based mailboxes. Example:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>*@noam allnoam<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>*@ww allww<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>But then the whole list (comp, allnoam, allww) gets forwarded to the forwarding partners. Of course, a forwarding partner in Europe would not be forwarded the allnoam mailbox. But they would get the comp mailbox, even if there is stuff in the comp mailbox with @noam floods. So, in essence, if everyone uses topic-based rewrites, then everything that goes into a topic area ends up being flooded everywhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Question: Is this what most people do? If not, how do you handle splitting bulletins into topics for your users while still doing the expected thing for each different flood?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>3</span>) @local flood<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’ve been told that the @local flood (i.e. topic@local) should stay on the local machine. In other words, it’s sort of a pseudo-flood or anti-flood in that it explicitly designates that the bulletin should not be flooded/forwarded to others. But I’ve not seen that used in the rewrite files I’ve seen.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Question; Is the @local “flood” in general use? If so, how are you handling it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>nos-bbs mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org">nos-bbs@tapr.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs">http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>