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That is right for ax25 bulletins.<br>
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The only thing what stayed local were a couple of mailing lists from
Internet<br>
I had these in the past. These were on topic (What Internet mailing
lists already are)<br>
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Bob VE3TOK<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-08-09 07:35 AM, Michael E Fox -
N6MEF wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Bob.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So, if I read
what you’re saying correctly, then the answers to my three
topics are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1) no flood –
you forward anyway (“I will forward all the bulletins I
receive”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">2) topic-based
vs. flood-based – you sort and forward based on the flood
only<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">3) @local
flood – you don’t use it (“I will forward all the bulletins
I receive”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is that right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org">nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org">mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Boudewijn
(Bob) Tenty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2014 5:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] Bulletin flood handling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">I
just sort them based on area @area ww (world), eu, vk,
etc. only and don't sort them based on the topic as topics
change all the time.<br>
I will forward all the bulletins I receive. <br>
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Sorting based on topics is too much work for ax25 bulletins I
think.<br>
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Bob VE3TOK<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 14-08-08
12:27 PM, Michael E Fox - N6MEF wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’d like to get
some clarification from the broader group on the generally
accepted/expected way to handle bulletin floods. I guess
this is a broader topic than just for NOS, but I’m
constrained by the capabilities/limitations of JNOS so I’d
like to know what other JNOS users do.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’m looking for
feedback on a few key points:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">1) no flood<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’ve been told
that a bulletin addressed to “topic” (no @flood) should
remain local on the machine and not be flooded to forwarding
partners. I’ve even received snarky emails from other
sysops when I forward a bulletin that did not have a flood
in the address. However, the rewrite files from others I’ve
see routinely have rules such as:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">atv* atv<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">or <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">wx* wx<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">That is, no
distinguishing between atv*@* and atv*. Everything gets put
into the atv mailbox/area. Then the forward.bbs files from
those same sysops forward those areas to partners. This
means that all bulletins, with or without a flood are sent
to forwarding partners. And, if everyone does that, then no
flood is essentially the same as @ww.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Question: Do
most people separate how they handle topic* from topic*@*?
If yes, how? If no, then do you just flood everything?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2) topic-based
vs. flood-based rewrites<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Most of the
rewrite files I’ve seen start with a list of topics that the
sysop wants to group into areas. This makes it easier for
the reader to find something of interest. Example:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">ibm*
comp<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">linux*
comp<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">mac*
comp<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Then, anything
else that’s not listed above gets lumped into flood-based
mailboxes. Example:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">*@noam
allnoam<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">*@ww
allww<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">But then the
whole list (comp, allnoam, allww) gets forwarded to the
forwarding partners. Of course, a forwarding partner in
Europe would not be forwarded the allnoam mailbox. But they
would get the comp mailbox, even if there is stuff in the
comp mailbox with @noam floods. So, in essence, if everyone
uses topic-based rewrites, then everything that goes into a
topic area ends up being flooded everywhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Question: Is
this what most people do? If not, how do you handle
splitting bulletins into topics for your users while still
doing the expected thing for each different flood?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">3</span>) @local flood<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’ve been told
that the @local flood (i.e. topic@local) should stay on the
local machine. In other words, it’s sort of a pseudo-flood
or anti-flood in that it explicitly designates that the
bulletin should not be flooded/forwarded to others. But
I’ve not seen that used in the rewrite files I’ve seen.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Question; Is
the @local “flood” in general use? If so, how are you
handling it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Michael<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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