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    Hi all,<br>
    <br>
    just to give my two euro cents to our cause :)<br>
    <br>
    Together with Maiko, I spend many many time<br>
    on run even impossible tests for a better understanding.<br>
    <br>
    On my *specific* situation I found that one solution<br>
    found by Maiko and applied on the 2.0j.3 sources<br>
    is OK for my own running situation ... TNX Maiko!  <br>
    <br>
    However disabling my original setup and following the Mark<br>
    suggestion (see the last entry below obtained after an 'arp'<br>
    command) it appears with no effect here... the problem<br>
    remain unsolved :(<br>
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    ......<br>
    <blockquote type="cite">vpn.cisarnet.ampr.org    ether  
      56:4b:af:76:9b:33   C          tap0<br>
      iw0bec.ampr.org                 
      (incomplete)                              tap0<br>
      ik0mow.ampr.org                 
      (incomplete)                             tap0<br>
      iw0egi.ampr.org                   
      (incomplete)                             tap0<br>
      192.168.1.1                   ether   00:18:d1:5e:ce:e0  
      C           eth0<br>
      i0ojj.ampr.org           *       <from_interface>   
      MP                eth0<br>
      root@i0ojj:~#</blockquote>
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    here---------------------------------<br>
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    Naturally here there are no NATs, no firewalls, all is demilitarized
    and so on.<br>
    <br>
    May be, at this point, that the failure is caused by my SIEMENS /
    Made in China<br>
    ADSL router ? Mine and other situations may belong upon this kinda
    problem.<br>
    <br>
    73, gus i0ojj<br>
    <br>
    On 08/15/2013 10:01 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
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cite="mid:CA+ue=O7wSaDTjoCpkA1tjSH_=Qh34k9V_OSjEcXEfHXSoRc1jA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Hmmmnnnn.
        <div><br>
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        <div>Bloody cellphone keypad.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I meant to say "ARP" and "send".</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Good job someone understands me :)</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Mark</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Mark
          Phillips <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:g7ltt@g7ltt.com" target="_blank">g7ltt@g7ltt.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">Have you an are publish on your linux box?</p>
            <p dir="ltr">You need to satisfy layer 2. Your jnos has no
              mac address and so your dsl router cannot find it. Bear in
              mimd that on your LAN things happen at the mac layer.</p>
            <p dir="ltr">In short you tell  your linux box to advertise
              itself as the holder of the jnos tun0 address.  Dsl will
              swnd packets to linux which will then look at the IP layer
              and move it on to jnos.</p>
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              <div class="h5">
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 13, 2013 4:20 AM,
                  "Miguel Bahi Cruz" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:miguelbahi_cruz@hotmail.com"
                    target="_blank">miguelbahi_cruz@hotmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
                            0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"
                              lang="EN-US">Jerome, thanks for your
                              answer.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
                            0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"
                              lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
                            0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"
                              lang="EN-US">I try your suggestion, but
                              don't have success</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My
                              setup is this:</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Tun0 
                              jnos side  : 192.168.0.201 </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Tun0
                              linux side : 192.168.0.200</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Lan
                              eth0 ubuntu : 192.168.0.21</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DSL
                              Router : 192.168.0.30</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The
                              pings in the lan to 192.168.0.201  respond
                              ok, and I  log without problems, in the
                              telnet in jnos session, in the same Linux
                              machine, or in a Windows pc in my lan (
                              adding static route  route add
                              192.168.0.201 192.168.0.21 ).</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have
                              configured in my DSL router  the IP Tun0 
                              jnos side  : 192.168.0.201, as a DMZ</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-if I
                              make a telnet to my IP public address, it
                              fails.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <span lang="EN-US">-I
                              try to config my router with NAT port
                              forwarding the port 23 mapped to
                              192.168.0.201, if I make a telnet to my IP
                              public address, it fails.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-Other
                              tests, is activate port triggering in tcp
                              23 ( I disable the previous nat setting
                              mapping to port 23 ),  it fails too.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">- I
                              don’t  try this two last settings at the
                              same time.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My
                              jnos test node continues in a island,
                              please I need more help.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <div><br>
                          <div>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:13:47 -0700<br>
                            > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:romers@shaw.ca"
                              target="_blank">romers@shaw.ca</a><br>
                            > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org"
                              target="_blank">nos-bbs@tapr.org</a><br>
                            > Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] Jnos networking
                            problem<br>
                            > <br>
                            > Miguel...<br>
                            > <br>
                            > I have been down this road too (only
                            with cable rather than dsl).<br>
                            > <br>
                            > I concluded that only if you're using
                            port forwarding do you need the <br>
                            > static routing. If you're not using
                            port forwarding, then put the jnos <br>
                            > lan address of tun0 into the DMZ and it
                            should just work.<br>
                            > <br>
                            > You will need to protect yourself
                            against intruders by using 'tcp access <br>
                            > permit' statements in autoexec.nos<br>
                            > <br>
                            > I have never had a problem with the
                            system configured in this manner. <br>
                            > You can see the bad guys sending syn
                            packets trying to get in, but they <br>
                            > can't get passed the 'tcp access' if
                            they're not on the list.<br>
                            > <br>
                            > Best,<br>
                            > jerome - ve7ass<br>
                            > <br>
                            > <br>
                            > On 13-08-07 11:07 AM, Miguel Bahi Cruz
                            wrote:<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Hi, This is mi firs msg to the
                            list, as a presentation of myself, and <br>
                            > > make first question to the list.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > I have a test node in Jnos 2.0j
                            under ubuntu Linux 10.04 LTS. The node <br>
                            > > basically is working ok. Now I
                            want internet connectivity for give <br>
                            > > access to the users or myself, to
                            the node to telnet, and link with <br>
                            > > other ampr nodes thru AXIP link,
                            and converse nodes, to the rest of <br>
                            > > the world net.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > I am making a config scenario
                            similar to Maiko makes in his setup like <br>
                            > > this graphic <br>
                            > > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.langelaar.net/projects/jnos2/documents/practical/jnosntwk.jpg"
                              target="_blank">http://www.langelaar.net/projects/jnos2/documents/practical/jnosntwk.jpg</a><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > The only difference is , that my
                            Linux runs under a virtual machine in <br>
                            > > VMware Server v1, in a Windows
                            2003 Server ES R2 SP2server machine.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > The problem is the config don’t
                            works, because my ADSL router don’t <br>
                            > > support add a static route like
                            Maiko make in his router ( the DMZ <br>
                            > > feature if is implemented and
                            activated but is not sufficient to work <br>
                            > > in my case ). I need make a static
                            route between the adsl router and <br>
                            > > the jnos box.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Asking to Maiko about this, we
                            speak in different solutions:<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > -Activate a router in Ubuntu, and
                            add this static route between the <br>
                            > > adsl router and Linux box.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > -Use a external physical router
                            between the router adsl and the server <br>
                            > > machine, I have a Linkys WRT54GL
                            with firmware DD-WRT, with very <br>
                            > > flexible config options.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > The first option is very difficult
                            to me, because I am not Linux <br>
                            > > expert. Any help is welcome<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > I try the second option using two
                            lan ports of the lan side of the <br>
                            > > linksys router (1 connect to
                            server machine ( Ubuntu Linux ) and the <br>
                            > > other to ADSL router, and I added
                            a static route in the router to jnos <br>
                            > > box ( all in the same subnet ) in
                            to Linux box, but the pings and <br>
                            > > telnet don’t Works.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > I am now trying making new config
                            with different subnets ( use the <br>
                            > > lan, and wan side of the router ),
                            but I have more doubts.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Fort this I ask about help about
                            this.<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Thanks in advance<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > >
                            ------------------------------------------------------<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Miguel Bahi Cruz<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Telecomunicationes Engineer<br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > EB5JEQ Amateur Radio Station <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.eb5jeq.es"
                              target="_blank">www.eb5jeq.es</a><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > email y skype : <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:miguelbahi_cruz@hotmail.com"
                              target="_blank">miguelbahi_cruz@hotmail.com</a><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Linkedin : <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://es.linkedin.com/pub/miguel-bahi-cruz/1a/715/495"
                              target="_blank">http://es.linkedin.com/pub/miguel-bahi-cruz/1a/715/495</a><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > > Web : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.miguelbahi.name"
                              target="_blank">http://www.miguelbahi.name</a><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > ><br>
                            > >
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