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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hmm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, in my case, I can’t reach the FBB station with RF (yet). So I’m using telnet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Getting logged in isn’t the problem. They can both login to each other just fine every time, without fail. And sometimes short messages will forward. But usually, the session gets hung somewhere. Just monkeying around setting mbox fbb to different values and doing multiple mbox kicks, I finally got a complete forwarding session. But only just once. It won’t repeat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I see protocol errors with either MBOX FBB 1 or FBB 2 set. (It’s a shame we can use the fbb with an FBB station!) ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But even with FBB 0 (or !), there ends up being some type of TCP/telnet problem. I haven’t seen problems with telnet in 20 years. RRR!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wm Lewis<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> nos-bbs@tapr.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] Forwarding with FBB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Michael:<br> <br>First let me say that forwarding between a JNOS and an FBB can be done. I've done it. I still do it.<br> <br>BUT !!!!!!! There is one major caveat that seems to get over-looked, and it revolves around the connection method.<br> <br>If your stations are TELNET-ing into each other, YOU WILL FAIL. The connection method of one using "LF (Line Feed)" and the other using "CR (Carriage Return)" causes an issue immediately and you can not even get logged into each other.<br> <br>Now, in your case (and mine) where the connection is via an AX25 or NetRom, there is (usually) no "login" so that part becomes moot.<br> <br>Here is what I use for settings:<br> <br>In my <strong><u><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>autoexe.nos</span></u></strong>, I use "<strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mbox fbb 2</span></strong>"<br> <br>Then in my <strong><u><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>forward.bbs</span></u></strong> file to the guys using FBB I use this:<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>--------</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>n6xyz</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>ax25 xyz n6xyz</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>!</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>allca</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>allus</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>ares</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>bbs</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>dx</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>help</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>history</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>humor</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>misc</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>n6xyz</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>nts</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>radio</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>sale</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>space</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>wx</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>yl</span></strong><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------------</span></strong><br> <br>Note the "!" on the third line. Read the "eschew" comments in the JNOS manual. <br> <br>Now, there is a more simplex setting. Just set your mbox fbb setting to this "<strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>mbox fbb 0</span></strong>".<br> <br>What that does is simply tell the FBB station that you want to forward with, that your station is not using any FBB protocols at all, and their FBB station will synch with you using non FBB forwarding. Like JNOS to JNOS.<br> <br>It just depends on if you want to forward using compression or not. If you don't care and you're having issues, just turn off the FBB setting so your two stations synch without using FBB protocols.<br> <br>Bill<br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:n6mef@mefox.org">n6mef@mefox.org</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org">nos-bbs@tapr.org</a><br>Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:12:30 -0800<br>Subject: [nos-bbs] Forwarding with FBB<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Is anyone having any luck forwarding with an FBB station?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Apparently, JNOS mbox fbb 1 is just broken. I can see in wireshark that JNOS is issuing an FQ and the FBB system is coming back with an error saying it must be FF or FS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>JNOS mbox fbb 2 also seems to have problems. It gets hung in the middle of a transfer with the FBB station. The FBB BBS operator asked me to try plain text forwarding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>But JNOS mbox fbb 0 gets hung also. Plain telnet should just work in 2012. I’ve experienced something similar with an N0ARY machine that gets hung and chalked it up to N0ARY. But since N0ARY and FBB can forward just fine, and now JNOS is also having trouble forwarding to FBB, I’m thinking that JNOS is the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I’ve spent hours and hours trying different combinations. JNOS just seems to have compatibility issues with non-JNOS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Is anyone having success? If so, would you be willing to share your config?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________ nos-bbs mailing list <a href="mailto:nos-bbs@tapr.org">nos-bbs@tapr.org</a> <a href="https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs">https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>