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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know Fish is traveling right now so he may be delayed in getting back to you. I’ll answer what I can.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Curry<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] JNOS & tactical calls<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>In a thread that you all thought went dormant last month, FiSH (K6FSH) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>> if you UNDEFINE MBX_AREA_PROMPT and MBX_MORE_PROMPT it should <br>> eliminate the need to pre-configure users to "expert" mode. We use Outpost too.<br><br>Apropos of this observation, I just want to verify -- are the following assertions true? (And if not, what's the proper course of action?)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>1a) There's no #define that I can change to #undef to turn off the alphabet-soup prompt (a user still needs to issue the X command to get that to go away);<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m pretty sure he added something for this, too. But I don’t know what he labeled it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>1b) The alphabet-soup prompt doesn't prevent Outpost from working correctly with JNOS (statements found on the Outpost website to the contrary notwithstanding);<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think that is correct, but you should test to verify. Mostly, I think it just wastes bandwidth when using Outpost. The more prompt is the critical think with Outpost.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>2) Even though (after #undef'ing the two symbols named above) I don't need to doctor up entries in users.dat for the Tactical Call Signs, I still need to create entries for them in ftpusers (unless I'm willing to let them default to "univperm", or some more specific "<interface>perm").<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The allowed tactical call signs are not defined in users.dat. They are defined in a file called “TacCalls” which is located in the main JNOS directory. The format of the file is shown in this document: <a href="http://www.scc-ares-races.org/packet/SCC_Pkt_Tac_Call_Request_v100913.pdf">http://www.scc-ares-races.org/packet/SCC_Pkt_Tac_Call_Request_v100913.pdf</a> There is an example at the end of the document. Note that we impose some administrative constraints within our own network, such as that the tactical calls must begin with a certain 3 letters, the fourth letter can’t be 0 (zero), etc. But those are administrative rather than technical limitations. Also, no description is required next to each tactical call. That’s just another administrative requirement so more than one person can make sense of a given agency’s file. We have each of our cities and served agencies submit their file and then we simply concatenate them together and put the result in $JNOS_DIR/TacCalls.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would say yes, you’d need to define the perms in ftpusers if you don’t want univperm.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Also, is there any documentation of the format of entries in users.dat? Or do I just need to read the code?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just the above document. Perhaps when Fish get’s back we’ll corner him and get him to write up some documentation that can be posted to Maiko’s site.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Michael KI6TYV<br>-- <br>Remember, Comrades: Life is a series of choices -- all of which will be made for you by Central Committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>