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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I could live with that (“smtp direct off”) although I think the other options might suite some particular situations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, this timeout situation is REALLY, R-E-A-L-L-Y irritating for a gateway that serves more than its local (same host) JNOS system. Lots of extra (and useless) over-the-air traffic clogging the channel as JNOS attempts connecting to something it will never connect to. That just shouldn’t be there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>N6MEF<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Tenty<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> TAPR xNOS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [nos-bbs] smtp gateway command<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>It is annoying and that is also how I filter outgoing port 25, only my smtp gateway can be reached<br>from jnos.<br><br>For me the choice is simple: if smtp gateway defined, direct off. ( maybe with a switch for the old behaviour )<br><br>Bob VE3TOK<br><br><br><br>On 11-03-15 11:16 PM, Michael Fox - N6MEF wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It does indeed take quite a bit of time for JNOS to timeout trying to connect to external servers.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If JNOS is successful reaching a “real” mail server, it typically gets a reject for doing something wrong. This causes JNOS to send the message back to the sender of the message informing of the reject.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So, to prevent that from happening, I disabled forwarding of SMTP on the tunnel between JNOS and Linux. This causes the JNOS attempts to reach Internet mail servers to time out. At that point, JNOS tries the gateway.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This timeout takes about 2 minutes. That’s kind-of annoying, especially when you’re trying to test a set-up or train people.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So, it seems like an “smtp use-gateway” command which could control JNOS’s gateway usage would be helpful. The options I originally suggested below seem good, except I’d change “like-dns” to “non-local”. For completeness, I’ll rewrite it here:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>smtp use-gateway { LAST | first | always | non-local }</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>smtp use-gateway last # the default and current behavior; tries direct and, if it times out, passes to gateway</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>smtp use-gateway first # sends to the gateway first and, if that fails, tries direct</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>smtp use-gateway only # sends to the gateway only; does not try to send direct</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>smtp use-gateway non-local # if the host is found in domain.txt, behaves like “last” (tries to connect directly; otherwise it behaves like “only” (sends only to the gateway)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thoughts anyone? Is this reasonable? Do-able?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Michael</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>