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HMMM Barry, all your questions cause me to re-read the document and help files.<BR>
I am left with the reality:<BR>
1) UPLOAD does not perform it's task in accordance with my original note.<BR>
2) so - WHERE in cyberspace is the content of <file> sent in response to UPLOAD?<BR>
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On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 15:33 -0400, Barry Siegfried wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">["(Skip) K8RRA" <<A HREF="mailto:k8rra@ameritech.net">k8rra@ameritech.net</A>> wrote]:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I believe to have stumbled into something like a bug...</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Both myself and N1OXH are focusing on UPLOAD documentation detail.</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> This is not the first time for the UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD subject on this</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> reflector in the past year.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I recall a discussion about UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD on the mailbox menu.</FONT>
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The documentation change has worked out well.
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> The previous go-round worked itself out nicely with a change to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> documentation and help files.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> This time I favor a change to the jnos vocabulary.</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> The sysop menu contains UPLOAD (but not DOWNLOAD) as an ascii</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> transport vehicle.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">When you say "sysop menu" are you talking about a human sitting</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">at the net> prompt on the console, or are you talking about going</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to the remote net> prompt from inside a mailbox connection (for</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">which you *do* normally need "sysop" privileges)?</FONT>
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Nope Barry - I'm talking about a terminal screen full of data not the person reading it, and the consequence of issuing the command UPLOAD to jnos.<BR>
The prompt options are never "net>" but are:<BR>
sysop: "...jnos>"<BR>
user: "Area: k8rra (#3) >"<BR>
And the chain of commands leading to the jnos> prompt doesn't really matter...
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Usage is pretty clear as documented,</FONT>
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Boy - did I blow that observation...
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<FONT COLOR="#000000"> but jnos does not perform as</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> documented on my host.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> "UPLOAD FILE" gives error messages in the context of "DOWNLOAD"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> errors.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> "UPLOAD FILE" does not toggle into a mode of accepting ascii data</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> and placing it into a file.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">If you're talking about a human sitting at the net> prompt on the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">console, then UPLOAD means "send ASCII from a file to a session".</FONT>
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OK, so which session? <session #> is not a parameter and the sysop console supports many sessions simultaneously. And to what purpose? Like SOURCE command?
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">I don't understand what you mean mean by "mode of accepting ascii</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">data".</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">The RECORD command implements a DOWNLOAD mechanism.</FONT>
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Not so much as RECORD supports a terminal stream "trace" mechanism.<BR>
Great for debugging research or for making examples of operation for whatever purposes.<BR>
Rotten for file content host-to-host transfer.<BR>
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AGAIN I make the same point for RECORD as I did for UPLOAD --> what <session #> is recorded?
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<FONT COLOR="#000000"> ></FONT>>SNIP<<<FONT COLOR="#000000"> I'm so confused. :\</FONT>
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So - I was confused too. Under those conditions you don't have a prayer as staying on track...;-)<BR>
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If you have real life proper (intended?) use examples for UPLOAD please bring them on!
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