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Answer Steven...<BR>
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On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 13:18 -0400, Steven Stimpson wrote:<BR>
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<B><FONT COLOR="#000000">From:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"> <A HREF="mailto:k8rra@ameritech.net">(Skip) K8RRA</A> </FONT>
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<B><FONT COLOR="#000000">To:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"> <A HREF="mailto:nos-bbs@lists.tapr.org">TAPR xNOS Mailing List</A> </FONT>
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<B><FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"> Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:00 PM</FONT>
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<B><FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject:</FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"> Re: [nos-bbs] DNS requirements</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks for the reply Jay.</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I agree your question is important to know for administration purposes.</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">But don't you agree that order is not an issue for me (I have no defined DNS servers)?</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Unless there is a hidden "default" server polled?</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">CHEERS</FONT><BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">I guess my question is are you sending <A HREF="mailto:n1ohx@n1ohx.ampr.org">n1ohx@n1ohx.ampr.org</A>, or <A HREF="mailto:steven2@gwi.net?">steven2@gwi.net?</A></FONT></FONT><BR>
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Example 1 - and all was good before upgrading the platform revision.<BR>
My domain.txt was hand built for only my immediate ham neighborhood - and that is what failed.<BR>
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About the file...<BR>
There are some external references in domain.txt that require Internet access.<BR>
They are DNS server sites for ampr.org.<BR>
Again, in my analysis I discounted the presence of these because the name I wanted to resolve was already present in exactly the form needed at the top of the table.<BR>
Perhaps a shortsighted assumption?
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">one is for amateur radio purposes and you will need an pre-compiled domain.txt by an amateur authority</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">for those purposes. the second is an internet address that should be looked up dynamically, on-the-fly.</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">assuming you only have specific internet addresses that you send to repeatedly, once in domain.txt</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">they should be brought out of there by default before even attempting a query over the net.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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It is my intent to extend DNS by way of a server on the host for internet addresses - but that is later...<BR>
For now I'm satisfied if my ...ampr.org addresses are resolved locally by only jnos.<BR>
And I appreciate your "should" statement - but it seems something fails before matching the domain.txt entry.
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Make sure the "Domain update" parameter is correct.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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Domain update is "ON".
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">only other thing I can offer, and to this day I don't know why I have to do it, was</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">suggested to me by ka1nnn. Why or how it works I do not know, but</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">this NEEDS to be at the TOP of your domain.txt</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">$origin ampr.org.</FONT></FONT><BR>
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Hmmm - The "$origin ..." is missing from the domain.txt.<BR>
Further, my doc accumulation has no reference to the record.<BR>
I will take some time to research and experiment with this suggestion!
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Without that, we could not get Jnos to read .ampr.org addresses from domain.txt without</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">checking the file, before attempting to resolve. There may be other things you can do with $origin</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">good luck Skip,</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Kindest regards,</FONT></FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Steven N1OHX</FONT></FONT><BR>
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You have improved my luck Steven - THANKS.
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