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<A title=k8rra@ameritech.net href="mailto:k8rra@ameritech.net">George (Skip)
VerDuin</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 12:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [nos-bbs] Collision
avoidance</DIV>
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<DIV>Kewl Steve - yes you got no bananas...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lost 'Em long ago... :-) :-)
Wait.... those were my marbles. sorry.....</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><BR>My guess for what to do next is to
create an awareness for the concept of "useful traffic thruput bytes per
minute" in the area.<BR>Then get measurements established and shared.<BR>I
doubt that the stations stacking up repeat packets know it is happening and
don't have tools to "see" it.<BR>And the "speedometer" seems useful in several
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Oh boy would that be useful for KISS H.F.
Jnos in particular.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Jnos adheres strictly to the ax.25
protocol, but Msys, another</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>popular H.F. BBS program does not. It sends one
ack for every frame, even if those</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>acks are in the same TX. This causes a runaway
condition between Tnos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and Jnos stations when forwarding with Msys on
H.F. via KISS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>WA8DED does not have this problem. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I am interested in your concept of
"Useful bytes per minute", how</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to measure it, and then share. It would bring
much relief</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to many H.F. forwarding networks, many of which
involve</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jnos, so it's not too far off topic here. KISS is
a problem</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>on H.F.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Regards Skip,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steven N1OHX</FONT></DIV>
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