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</head><BODY BGCOLOR="#F0F0F0" ><p><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">I would love to stick in a multi port card to get some serial ports but they are awfully hard to stuff in most laptops. I have tried two different brands of USB/serial adapters in my Toshiba laptop running Win2000 but they don't seem to work even though it says I have a com3 port. My software (Airmail) can't find it. I have a USB/parallel running and it does fine. Same Vendor, BAFO Technologies. Any ideas?</SPAN></p>
<p><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">Owen, N0WO<br /><br />On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:07:16 -0000, nos-bbs-request@lists.tapr.org wrote:<br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Send nos-bbs mailing list submissions to</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> nos-bbs@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> <a href="https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs">https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs</a></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> nos-bbs-request@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> You can reach the person managing the list at</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> nos-bbs-owner@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> than "Re: Contents of nos-bbs digest..."</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Today's Topics:</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> 1. Re: CPU consumption change after 4(?) days (Tim Gorman)</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> --------------------------------------------------------------------</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> --</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Message: 1</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:46:33 -0500</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> From: Tim Gorman <ab0wr@ab0wr.net></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] CPU consumption change after 4(?) days</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> To: maiko@pcs.mb.ca, TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs@lists.tapr.org></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Message-ID: <200604141646.34033.ab0wr@ab0wr.net></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> I don't have a multiport card in my linux box but I do have on in</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> the box I</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> use to run my Winlink Classic BBS (HF and VHF port + serial port to</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> radio)</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> and I have never had a minutes trouble with it. It is a NetMos card</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> with 2</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> serial ports and 1 lpt port (I use the extra lpt port to run a PIC</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> programmer).</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> I have used a USB-to-RS232 adapter with a robot I have that uses an</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> oopic-R</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> control board. I program it using my wife's windows XP laptop which</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> doesn't</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> have a serial port. It works ok too.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> I don't see enough difference between them to have a preference. If</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> the</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> programming for USB interfacing is difficult, certainly the</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> multiport card</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> would be the path to take.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> tim ab0wr</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> On Thursday 13 April 2006 23:10, maiko@pcs.mb.ca wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> George wrote :</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:purple;">>>> Yes - I am using a USB/RS-232 device ...</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> I'm concerned about the fact that USB is replacing RS-232. There</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> are</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> many applications in the control field, modems, tncs, robotics is</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> a</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> big one. Although in all fairness, alot of robotics stuff is now</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> in</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> the form of PIC controller boards that are programmed using USB.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Writing USB drivers for JNOS was a thought, but that thought</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> didn't</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> last very long :-) There are apparently ALOT of different</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> standards</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> to deal with, each USB vendor seems to have an implementation a</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> tiny</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> bit different than the others (or so I read). As a result, I can</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> not</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> imagine supporting such software - it could be time consuming.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Solution ? How about a multiport serial I/O card ?</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> I use an older STB 4 port serial card. I think anyone running NOS</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> should</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> consider getting a modern multiport serial card, and the price</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> does not</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> seem to be that bad. Easy-Sync for example has them for under</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> $30, and</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> these are modern units if I am not mistaken with full PCI</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> support, etc.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> In my professional opinion, I think one is saved ALOT of headache</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> by</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> using true /dev/tty ports, and not using the pseudo tty ports</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> created</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> by the USB <-> RS232 converter drivers. Get a multiport I/O card !</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> What's the cost of a USB <-> RS232 converter ? Would that money</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> be better spent getting a MODERN multiport serial I/O card ?</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> I think so. BUT, it would be nice to hear from others that have</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> some</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> real experience with the multiport cards. Please share this with</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> us,</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> especially if you have had BAD experiences with them as well.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> That's</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> only fair. It can't all be good of course, but I'm happy with</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> mine.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Maiko</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> _______________________________________________</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> nos-bbs mailing list</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> nos-bbs@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> <a href="https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs">https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs</a></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> ------------------------------</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> _______________________________________________</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> nos-bbs mailing list</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> nos-bbs@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> <a href="https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs">https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nos-bbs</a></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> End of nos-bbs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 11</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> ***************************************</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /><br /></SPAN></p>
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