[nos-bbs] Analysis of recent frequent netrom related crashes

Maiko (Personal) maiko at pcsinternet.ca
Sat Nov 19 12:23:53 EST 2022


Nothing like jinxing yourself, forget it, it gets fixed when
it gets fixed. No idea now as to why, could be newer compiler
for all I know (I did upgrade my OS a while ago), so perhaps
it's exposing something in the JNOS code, sigh, not the 1rst
time it's happened.

Last post on this, sorry for filling up your mailboxes :]

M

On 2022-11-18 1:42 p.m., maiko at pcsinternet.ca wrote:
> Interesting enough the crashing 'seems' to have stopped.
> 
> All of this started a while ago after I added a new wormhole
> to another system (FBB over BPQ netrom), but that system seems
> to have suddenly disappeared from the ether. I think they are
> having amprnet connectivity issues, so this will be much more
> difficult to track down now as I don't have a source to figure
> this out with. I am trying to track down the version of BPQ,
> hoping it will help me figure out what to do on my end.
> 
> There is something about the netrom traffic or states that is
> causing JNOS to crash in the NR4 level code, but I have yet to
> figure it out ... it's very confusing what is going on ...
> 
> Maiko / VE4KLM
> 
> On 2022-11-13 11:12, Maiko (Personal) wrote:
>> Okay, last one for now, and learning as I go ...
>>
>> Perhaps I need to set the NR4TDISC a lot lower (default) ?
>>
>>    jnos> netrom tdisc
>>    NR4 redundancy timer (sec): 120
>>
>> Experiences anyone ? But still, even with a smaller timeout value,
>> there is a 'risk' of a crash, making me think the current way of
>> doing a circuit table lookup and reusing entries, seems not be
>> the brightest way of doing it ? thinking a 'rewrite', ugh, no.
>>
>> Maiko / VE4KLM
>>
>> On 2022-11-13 10:47 a.m., Maiko (Personal) wrote:
>>> I am guessing (hopefully this shows up in my debugs) ...
>>>
>>> IF the local side requests a netrom layer 4 disconnect, then JNOS
>>> should probably free the callback there and then, instead of waiting
>>> for the final disconnect (which may not get to us). I figure it would
>>> not hurt to remove it at that point, since effectively it is done.
>>>
>>> I could put in a timer based garbage collection, but I think it's
>>> best to get rid of the callback data ASAP or else it will crash.
>>>
>>> Anyways ...
>>>
>>> Maiko / VE4KLM
>>>
>>> On 2022-11-13 10:37 a.m., Maiko (Personal) wrote:
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> Slightly technical post ...
>>>>
>>>> This has been driving me nuts the past few months, it just seems
>>>> to have started, perhaps because I took on a new netrom neighbour
>>>> or two, I just don't know, but I think I know the reasons for all
>>>> the crashes. After a few days of inserting some very heavy debugs
>>>> into the code, this is where I am at this morning :
>>>>
>>>> JNOS keeps a table of netrom callbacks, the default is 20. When a
>>>> new connection happens, it gets put into the table, and when it's
>>>> done with, it is supposed to be removed from the table. However,
>>>> this removal is ONLY DONE when the state of the connection becomes
>>>> disconnected. What is happening, is that it appears the entry in
>>>> the table for a specific connection looks valid, but in fact it
>>>> has disappeared, but JNOS did not remove it, so crash !!!
>>>>
>>>> What this suggests to me is that I did not get the final NETROM
>>>> disconnected, so JNOS still thinks the callback data is valid, but
>>>> in fact it is not, the memory has disappeared, so what happens is
>>>> you get every few days a crash in the nr4subr.c functions, like :
>>>>
>>>>    Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>>>>    0x000000000047fdd9 in match_n4circ (index=23, id=71, user=0x2081457
>>>>    "\236\226d\240\212\234b\236\226d\240\212\234b", node=0x208145e
>>>>    "\236\226d\240\212\234b") at nr4subr.c:138
>>>>     138  if ((int)(cb->yournum) == index && (int)(cb->yourid) == id
>>>>
>>>> AND
>>>>
>>>>    Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>>>>    0x00007f96411f9780 in __memcmp_avx2_movbe () from /lib64/libc.so.6
>>>>    (gdb) where
>>>>    #0  0x00007f96411f9780 in __memcmp_avx2_movbe () from 
>>>> /lib64/libc.so.6
>>>>    #1  0x0000000000482727 in nrresetlinks (rp=0x22c5550) at nr3.c:1441
>>>>    #2  0x000000000047ca22 in doobsotick () at nrcmd.c:1316
>>>>
>>>> It is very consistent, so I am running into cases where I am not 
>>>> getting
>>>> the final netrom layer 4 disconnect, so the callback remains, but JNOS
>>>> needs to loop through the whole circuit table to find valid ones to 
>>>> match up with, and this invalid one just happens to still be in the
>>>> table and kablewee :]
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I hope to have a fix of sorts for this 'soon', very 
>>>> frustrating. But again, why has this suddenly started happening
>>>> at the frequency it has for the past 3 months, possibly more ?
>>>>
>>>> Jack, this is probably what you are experiencing as well.
>>>>
>>>> Maiko / VE4KLM
>>>>



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